Ghost Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 You know what? Being totally honest, and liking some of the songs they did until Brand New Eyes, I'd be pretty bored if they would have stepped back into that sound. So, well, After Laughter is not the best thing in the world, but sounds fresh for them, so I'm in. Kevin, not bad what you posted. But I preffer what Paramore have tryed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 doesn't sound like they wrote their new material at all, though. they've always been pretty manufactured with the help of huge producers, but if i want to listen to Katie Perry i'll listen to Katie Perry. i thought Brand New Eyes was their best work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 according to the credits, they did write this record. It sounds absolutely nothing like Katy Perry so I don't really know what you're going for with that. Too many real instruments, for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 i'm clearly getting at the fact that it just sounds like something a typical pop star would put out. i get that you openly confessed your love for the record one page back and said you never liked this band before, but they've gone way downhill since Brand New Eyes and have desperately been trying to mimic other pop records since then in order to find relevancy. they're even more of a gimmick now then they were in the past (which i thought was impossible) with their costumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 i really think this is the best they could ever do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 45 minutes ago, Kevin. said: i'm clearly getting at the fact that it just sounds like something a typical pop star would put out. i get that you openly confessed your love for the record one page back and said you never liked this band before, but they've gone way downhill since Brand New Eyes and have desperately been trying to mimic other pop records since then in order to find relevancy. they're even more of a gimmick now then they were in the past (which i thought was impossible) with their costumes. Except last time I checked Katy Perry wasn't channeling 80s new wave? My point is that yes, it's very poppy, way poppier than stuff I would usually listen to either but it's been done pretty damn well, with decent instrumentation, lyrical themes and composition - I don't mind bands going pop if they do it in a non totally soulless and creative way. I can understand being a disgruntled fan now but I don't see this change as particularly inauthentic either. I mean hell, you could argue due to Hayleys relative age and the turmoil of issues in the band itself over the years, that this genre hopping isn't actually marketing related and is more down to growing and changing as a person. Isn't she only like 26 now? when Paramore started she was basically a kid, it shouldn't be too much of a leap to assume that the work would change over time. Them wearing costumes isn't a big deal, loads of bands have done stuff like this for years for live performances (like blink performing at MTV dressed like the first date video, for example?) and it's just a way to stand out, it doesn't mean the music itself is a gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 paramore isn't channeling 80s new wave either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw_sounds Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I like "Hard Times" reminds of Blondie, got to listen to other stuff on the record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Well, definitely they have an 80s vibe in their new record. But having a 'vibe' doesn't mean sounding exactly as... I don't know, Bowie in that era? Blondie? Anyway, talking about their old shit, I really enjoyed Hallelujah and, specially, Where The Lines Overlap back in the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedge00 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 5/25/2017 at 11:47 PM, Ghost said: I'm not sure who I like the most: Hayley on her weirdo incarnation, or in her fancy ones. wtf, wannabe Gwen Steffani? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_dept. Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 This is the first Paramore album I liked. Their old records were pretty generic pop-punk for young audience, while this record channels new wave/80's vibe I really like. Some songs even remind me of Talking Heads, guitar/bass/drums work is smart and skillful. The whole record feels a lot more more genuine than their previous ones, and not trying to appeal to anyone - they do what they want. And as everyone can see the record is much less successful commercially then California and Paramore's previous records for that matter, but artistically it's definitely a winner. For anyone liking the record I would recommend checking some modern indie new wave revival bands: Porches, Neon Indian, Toro Y Moi and so on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 46 minutes ago, alex_dept. said: This is the first Paramore album I liked. Their old records were pretty generic pop-punk for young audience, while this record channels new wave/80's vibe I really like. Some songs even remind me of Talking Heads, guitar/bass/drums work is smart and skillful. The whole record feels a lot more more genuine than their previous ones, and not trying to appeal to anyone - they do what they want. And as everyone can see the record is much less successful commercially then California and Paramore's previous records for that matter, but artistically it's definitely a winner. For anyone liking the record I would recommend checking some modern indie new wave revival bands: Porches, Neon Indian, Toro Y Moi and so on. Is that true? because I've heard hard times on the radio and seen ads and stuff for it everywhere whilst with California it felt like no one knew it existed. I'm curious about the sales results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott. Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hard times was stuck I. My head all day the other day but I'm still not arsed on it. Like I wouldn't go out my way to listen to it. I'll give the album a go but I've heard a few songs and it's just meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_dept. Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Kay said: Is that true? because I've heard hard times on the radio and seen ads and stuff for it everywhere whilst with California it felt like no one knew it existed. I'm curious about the sales results. After Laughter debuted at number six on the US Billboard 200, making it their third top 10 on the chart, with 67,000 album-equivalent units, of which 53,000 were pure album sales.[58] It also debuted within the top 10 of seven other countries including Australia, Austria, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland and the UK. California debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, moving 186,000 equivalent album units; it sold 172,000 copies in its first week, with the remainder of its unit total reflecting the album's streaming activity and track sales.[76] It marked the band's second number one album and first in over 15 years, when Take Off Your Pants and Jacket debuted at number one in 2001. It also knocked Drake's Views from the summit after having spent nine weeks at the top.[76] The album became the band's first to top the charts in the United Kingdom, selling 24,000 copies in its debut week.[77] The album also managed to reach higher chart positions worldwide than its predecessor Neighborhoods and outsold both its first-week and total sales in the US.[78] As of January 1, 2017, California has sold 408,000 units in the United States; making it the ninth best selling rock album of 2016.[79] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Huh. weird. I havent heard any new blink around here but paramore is everywhere. oh well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Reallyyy liking this album. I never got into their pop punk stuff, but I liked Ain't It Fun a couple years ago and this new album is great. Awesome grooves and riffs, cool lyrics, Hard Times and some others keep sticking in my head. Good stuff! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I also don't find it to be typical pop star stuff to be honest. It reminds me a lot of Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, with a lot of 80s new wave/pop/Paul Simon. I don't know much about the band but I read in an article recently that their older pop punk style was generally influenced written by their old guitarist, and after he left the band the bassist started writing a lot of the music (I think?) which had a lot more of this rhythmic/poppy/new wavey vibe. I know they were originally somewhat packaged and styled for the Hot Topic world but I THINK they have at least controlled their own sound for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent's Brother Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Reallllly diggin' this album too, I've kinda always been a Paramore fan though. Might be my second favorite behind BNE. I don't find the change in style strange at all either, you could hear it heading this way on the last album. Fake Happy is where it's at! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasa Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Champ182 said: I also don't find it to be typical pop star stuff to be honest. It reminds me a lot of Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, with a lot of 80s new wave/pop/Paul Simon. Yeah it's definitely not typical pop star stuff. Most mainstream pop today focuses on vocals--and Hayley has a great and distinctive voice, but she is also versatile with her style, unlike many pop stars who sing the same way across the board. Plus the instrumentation of the album is not EDM / trap influenced like most of the pop out there today (see Katy Perry's new songs), and it doesn't take a backseat to the vocals--it is just as important on this record. Which is great. That's what makes great pop music imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 so which secret cabal of songwriters you think wrote this album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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