Lauren Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I thought this could be a worthy topic as most of us are excited to see it. It was premiered yesterday and hopefully we'll get news soon. Personally im really excited and i hope it will go deep into history and how he created his sound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSandt Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, RAX said: Personally im really excited and i hope it will go deep into history and how he created his sound I'm sure it'll be an exercise in historical revisionism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, MSandt said: I'm sure it'll be an exercise in historical revisionism. comment = on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Of course. Musicaly speaking, Tom has nothing to talk nowadays. His days of glory and talent are deep buried in the past, so you have to go there if you want to talk something with substance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy030 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Not a bad idea. Edit the first post though to include the video clips that have been released. I may hate the guy and think he's a douche but this doc does look interesting from what we've seen so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 45 minutes ago, MSandt said: I'm sure it'll be an exercise in historical revisionism. I am interested in seeing it, but judging by the preview it is indeed historic revisionism. The biggest issue is Tom sees Blink as a joke band that he alone created and now he is doing far more important things. It was a steeping stone. Tom no longer has the ability to speak of Blink as anything other than that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 A lot of people who create amazing things don't know how they did it. I assume as much about Tom because he seems baffled by blink's success. I understand that POV because blink to me is really a miracle of a band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pong Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Well, then this person most certainly cannot be called a guitarist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Clarke said: I agree that Tom is baffled by blink's success. I think he has a very different view of things in this sense. Regarding blink, he saw the band as "dick jokes that led to private jets". It's no surprise that he thought AvA would be more successful, because in Tom's head, he actually was putting effort into this one. I think that's exactly how he saw things. I think he did try very, very hard in blink, and it seemed to pay off more and more as he tried. Like spending that year writing Untitled with Mark and Travis lead to some of their best work, so why wouldn't AVA be just as good? Unfortunately Tom has limitations and with anybody blind spots that he can't see. WDNTW is at least an artistic statement. I don't think it works well or holds up particularly well, but it certainly showed effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Hoppus Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 don't want to see that at this moment, but if i read here a lot of favorable reviews, i will watch it. probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, helen_hoppus said: don't want to see that at this moment, but if i read here a lot of favorable reviews, i will watch it. probably. Same. Not gonna watch if it's just revisionist Tom propaganda full of backhanded remarks about blink. Don't give a shit about his guitar tone, if it ends up being about that. It has sounded like garbage for a decade. Credibility lost in that department. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I actually think Wishing Well is about all of that. Reads like a guy literally shooting for the stars with his music and getting burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 What did Tom do with early AVA that any other joe blow band member doesn't do? Plus, he had massive amounts of blink cash to play with. Don't confuse ego with work ethic. Anyone can run around saying how great something is...Donald Trump, Oliver, etc...doesn't mean it has any substance whatsoever. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 AVA was very much a passion project. Blink was more like a fun collaboration that resulted in life altering results. That's my simplified hot take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Hoppus Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ghent said: Same. Not gonna watch if it's just revisionist Tom propaganda full of backhanded remarks about blink. Don't give a shit about his guitar tone, if it ends up being about that. It has sounded like garbage for a decade. Credibility lost in that department. i really hope he will not say his own bull about blink, their past or future together, just not to embarrass himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 lol, but point out any of California's short comings and you get a bitch fit on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott. Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 46 minutes ago, Olidamus said: I am interested in seeing it, but judging by the preview it is indeed historic revisionism. The biggest issue is Tom sees Blink as a joke band that he alone created and now he is doing far more important things. It was a steeping stone. Tom no longer has the ability to speak of Blink as anything other than that. This is what Tom thinks of Blink. He's an absolute cunt “I do not want to be in a bullshit pop band with some bullshit pop songs while you drive your fucking bullshit car and sing along to it like you’re some 14 year-old girl.” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Scott. said: This is what Tom thinks of Blink. He's an absolute cunt “I do not want to be in a bullshit pop band with some bullshit pop songs while you drive your fucking bullshit car and sing along to it like you’re some 14 year-old girl.” yeah, fuck all those bullshit pop songs I wrote that made me millions!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 It is not true that Tom always saw Blink as a "joke band". There was a time where he said they have joke songs and have fun, but the band is very serious. As far as success, at first they definitely didn't get why it was happening, but then, and it's human nature, they believed their own hype, Tom and Travis definitely did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott. Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just now, Ghent said: yeah, fuck all those bullshit pop songs I wrote that made me millions!!!! He's just a try hard wanker. Pretentious prick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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