Jan Backing Track Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 hours ago, knapton said: I thought Feldman just reached out on his own No, Travis pushed for it then DMd him. Feldmann was there in a matter of seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 the only logical/realistic scenarios are the following: 1) blink (or blink's management or label) already had a contract with feldmann to produce the next album before tom was kicked out. having a contract like this would have been pressure for tom to work together with the band and to keep deadlines. so this hyphotetic contract might be a turning point of the events. i'm sure if there was a chance to make compromise with tom, they wouldn't have kicked him out. (then skiba stepped in and this new situation delayed the album by a year, so after all the contract was broken, but they got rid of the responsible member.) 2) alternatively, they didn't choose a producer that early. tom's departure was not in correlation with a producer-contract, they just knew he was cancer in the band. they got skiba on board, started working together, maybe the band tried to go on the self-produced route. but the management or the label wanted a pro producer, so when the demos were done, they scheduled a meeting with feldmann. then they created a more friendly story, because they know that fans don't like when their favorite band is getting controlled by upper entities. (for me this is the most beliveable story.) 3) or maybe the management and label were out of the picture, and the "friendly story" was the truth, but with some unspoken elements. they said feldmann started to follow travis on twitter, then they talked to each other, and the conversation went to a professional level, they started working together soon after... something like this is imaginable if we're talking about a noname old friend, but when it's a well known producer, there must be an untold intention in the story: one of the parties wanted the conversation to go to the "work together" direction. and i don't think it was travis/blink, because in the preceding months they never mentioned such intention. travis works with a lot of industry big names, i bet he treats these kind of things more professionally (not like "we don't think of a producer for this album" then "we want feldmann" in the next second). and it makes no sense to work on 30 songs for months then decide to have someone who wants to start everything from 0, etc. all in all, choosing feldmann doesn't seem like free will. and it's strange that they keep him around. he takes a lot of creativity out of the process, and it's clearly not ideal for the band, especially for matt. +1) the band is sponsored by kemper, and feldmann was the only pop-punk producer that time who replaced his classic amp collection by kemper amps. so maybe thay had to demonstrate the abilities of kemper on this album. (somewhat contradicting that they didn't really talk about this aspect. it was just feldmann and co who released that profile pack, so it's not that huge publicity... yet i can see this sponsorship as part of the reasons.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Really no point in discussing this with Ghent, he is sticking with: I liked the album, Feldmann is great. Anything negative, no matter how valid I will ignore or dismiss with a one liner. That's what bots do. Whether its a tombot an AVAbot or whatever. But its 14 year old girl stuff to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 You guys are this fired up about Feldmann on a Sunday morning?! Keep those creative juices flowing though, your greatest material lies ahead. Just a bit of writers block lately, it will pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Ghent has now become a troll. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horchata Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Maybe Feldmann will sing on the next Blink album too. Hell, I don’t want to hear Mark singing - I want to hear feldmann! I mean, he’s the songwriter here right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Ghent said: You guys are this fired up about Feldmann on a Sunday morning?! Keep those creative juices flowing though, your greatest material lies ahead. Just a bit of writers block lately, it will pass At least I'm discussing other potential producers that would suit Blink's style a lot better. It's a better change than the normal Feldmann bashing to consider other options. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Ghent said: You guys are this fired up about Feldmann on a Sunday morning?! Keep those creative juices flowing though, your greatest material lies ahead. Just a bit of writers block lately, it will pass Yes, creative juices, the things Feldy bots hate and will want auto tuned or stripped for a recycled melody from the Feldy factory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kvothe said: At least I'm discussing other potential producers that would suit Blink's style a lot better. It's a better change than the normal Feldmann bashing to consider other options. I know we disagree a lot, but seeing your message on facebook to Blink 182 was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 I want to be fair, there are things that I like that Feldmann did, some of the songs are decent, a couple are really good. Although overused, the vocal tradeoffs are a highlight of something he did right. But there is just far far more bad that outweighs the good. Feldmann is not a good fit for Blink, that was cemented when I saw the video tour of his studio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Olidamus said: I know we disagree a lot, but seeing your message on facebook to Blink 182 was awesome. Lol I'm glad it was actually visible, but I imagine that's just because we're friends on FB so it showed up on your news feed? I was pretty drunk last night and wanted to reach out to the band, but I doubt anyone really sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kvothe said: Lol I'm glad it was actually visible, but I imagine that's just because we're friends on FB so it showed up on your news feed? I was pretty drunk last night and wanted to reach out to the band, but I doubt anyone really sees it. Its probably because we are friends and I've liked their page. Yeah, it was in my feed. Someone might see it who works with the band, it had looked like you got a few comments on it at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 7 hours ago, thongrider said: Fan fiction. Believing what Mark, Matt, and Travis each freely say about a situation is not fan fiction. That’s logic/sanity. If they didn’t want to be working with him they wouldn’t be starting a second album with him. And hanging out with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedge00 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, Kvothe said: Lol I'm glad it was actually visible, but I imagine that's just because we're friends on FB so it showed up on your news feed? I was pretty drunk last night and wanted to reach out to the band, but I doubt anyone really sees it. What did you post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Olidamus said: I want to be fair, there are things that I like that Feldmann did, some of the songs are decent, a couple are really good. Although overused, the vocal tradeoffs are a highlight of something he did right. Wholeheartedly disagree with this. The tradeoffs are one of the biggest flaws that made me legit angry. There's not a single Mark only song. Not a single Matt only song. It was Mark start, then Matt, 90% of the songs, got super old and lazy real quick. Same exact format for an entire album (2) is embarrassing to release from a vet band. Of things I like he did, I like that he went back and studied over vintage blink albums and attempted to make a upbeat summer album again. I thought that was a good idea, the execution was just flat. Also like that he made Mark do a Tom song, and on the production side, the bass guitar was as good as its ever been. I like his passion for pop punk. Like the quirks (Travis mistake, built this pool) stops there for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, theedge00 said: What did you post Pretty much the same thing as my post on the top of the last page on how they should hire Brendan O'Brien to produce their stuff instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Because nothing makes more sense than a west coast pop punk band hiring a pretentious New Jersey rock producer. Also, 7 years older than a Feldmann. Must be a pedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ghent said: Because nothing makes more sense than a west coast pop punk band hiring a pretentious New Jersey rock producer. Also, 7 years older than a Feldmann. Must be a pedo. He's from Georgia...and he's produced albums for other west coast pop punk bands like the Offspring, as well as other west coast bands like RHCP. But you're missing the point, it shouldn't matter where he's from. He makes good rock albums and has dabbled with pop-punk with quite a few bands like Offspring, MCR, etc. He seems like the most well-rounded producer for a band like Blink. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 What RHCP album did he produce? An Offspring producer sounds like the equivalent of a Goldfinger producer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 I said it once, and still think it. I'd love to see Butch Vig producing Blink-182. Like really love to see it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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