Ghost Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Little bit off topic in terms of talking about Brand New, but... the shit continues hitting the fan, or that's what it looks like... "A woman has shared on Twitter that she was physically assaulted by Kyle of We Came as Romans at a festival three years ago." You can read the thing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojangles Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 I'm afraid that someone in blink is gonna be accused for something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 hours ago, ungroovy said: I said it on fb, but everyone posted so much shit based on one or two word of mouth allegations half the time, and condemned so many people, but then put their lawyer caps on for Jesse Lacey's time to shine. He's nasty, folks. Further, when all these people I know absolutely wreck shitty artists in the NC music scene based on similar accusations, sometimes just one single allegation, and then they want to talk about both sides of this issue because it's a decent band and Jesse Lacey... Go fuck yourselves. I am comfortable with my own assessment, and it's the same assessment I'd have of anyone else. If a whole floodgate of women are saying you did some stupid shit, it's probably true, but I am not the arbiter of justice nor a court of law under any circumstance. It's all just my stupid opinion. Whether or not I can deal with what they did is my own deal, and whether or not other people can do the same is NOT my shit to deal with. i think its insane how some careers are completely ending over these accusations. like you said, if numerous people are saying it, its probably true. but it could be so easy to ruin someone at this point by anonymously calling in somewhere, making up a story, and collecting a check. i do think that some innocent people will lose their jobs at some point as a result of this trend. most of the people accused probably aren't innocent but it could happen especially considering how vengeful the entertainment industry is. aside from all of this, i'm able to "separate the art from the artist" in some circumstances if the art means enough to me. entire films or bands shouldn't be erased from history due to the actions of one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, bojangles said: I'm afraid that someone in blink is gonna be accused for something Our first contact with extra-terrestrial life will probably be some aliens accusing Tom of inappropriately touching them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knapppers Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 As Bill Burr said, how come none of these guys are denying it? all jokes aside it is strange that they feel powerful enough to get away with it but not powerful enough to deny it and say its just some crazy fan once it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 You can't just give the punchline to a joke without any context and exect us to know what the hell you're talking about?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 9 hours ago, bojangles said: I'm afraid that someone in blink is gonna be accused for something I think that was already suggested a few years ago. Ask Olidamus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 The sad thing is if something does come out, he will be vindicated in his assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melty Mark Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 The original girl who stated that she was 15 decided to provide proof, that proof being two unanswered emails from after she was 18 in 2007, and a message from the band on Myspace regarding the release of Daisy (a few other fans confirmed that they sent out messages about it at the time). A whole bunch of people who knew her are saying that she did this with multiple dudes in bands and would brag about it, and she posted on Facebook in 2011 about her first Skype session. So, he still has a history of shitty behavior and problems with sex, which he's been in treatment and sobriety for for years before he got "caught", but it looks an awful lot like he is not a child predator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 You did read the pitchfork article where they talked to multiple women right? https://pitchfork.com/news/two-alleged-victims-of-brand-news-jesse-lacey-detail-years-of-sexual-exploitation-of-minors/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melty Mark Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Being 17 when someone asks you for nudes is a little different than being 15, but I understand why it seems wrong and I agree that it was. I guess it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth or not. I can't really grasp why all of this is put together to be such a bizarre, shitty narrative, but it doesn't matter. Further, if this is all stuff being taken out of context and fabricated by crazed Brand New fans, that just makes this all the more shitty and disappointing as a conclusion to their career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 I get what you mean, Beth. Totally. And I must add that some girls, those years, acted on purpose. Can you imagine how cool could've been to snag 'that' frontman from 'that' band? I mean, I've seen it at a few small shows here in my hometown. Specially when bands as Sun Eats Hours, back in the day, hit the city. Of course, that's never an excuse for anyone to get advantage of that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/multiple-people-accuse-jesse-lacey-of-misconduct-with-minors.html xbearbotx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom18222 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 i'm guessing the rumors about him fucking derrick shermans fiance are true lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I mean, it seems so. the guitar tech doesn't seem to like him too much, so maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Doesn't surprise me that the writer of the pieces of shit that are Daisy and Science Fiction is actually a piece of shit himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom18222 Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 now the song "bed" is even more creepy than it was before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisa Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 It's been a couple of months now since the jesse lacey bullshit, and I still haven't managed to listen to songs from Deja Entendu or YFW. I used to listen to their music almost every day. How crazy is that? But I also realised I don't think I have a problem with The Devil and God, Daisy and the new album and I still can listen to them when those songs come up on shuffle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, Elisa said: It's been a couple of months now since the jesse lacey bullshit, and I still haven't managed to listen to songs from Deja Entendu or YFW. I used to listen to their music almost every day. How crazy is that? But I also realised I don't think I have a problem with The Devil and God, Daisy and the new album and I still can listen to them when those songs come up on shuffle. ... that's kinda weird. if you took issue with listening to his music surely it'd be all his music, not just some of it? Is it because deja and YFW are near the years of the accusations? because it's not like he's a different Jesse later on. I'm listening to BN fine tbh, I think it's despicable and I won't think of Jesse personally in the same way again but my interaction with their music has little to do with him directly, more my own interpretation of the art itself - I spent years identifying to their music, that isn't going to stop now that I know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisa Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Kay said: ... that's kinda weird. if you took issue with listening to his music surely it'd be all his music, not just some of it? Is it because deja and YFW are near the years of the accusations? because it's not like he's a different Jesse later on. I'm listening to BN fine tbh, I think it's despicable and I won't think of Jesse personally in the same way again but my interaction with their music has little to do with him directly, more my own interpretation of the art itself - I spent years identifying to their music, that isn't going to stop now that I know this. I don't think I have a big problem with what happened because I always knew he was a problematic guy, he based his entire career on problematic and weird lyrics, and all I care about is just the music. The bold part is also how I feel about music in general and I still love all the YFW and Deja songs but maybe I'm just a little bit put off by it and I don't feel like listening to them right now because I am dissociating - those two albums are a clear picture of him at the time while the themes of the other three are more about trying to be a different person and seeking real redemption. But I'll come around, I love Brand New. (Science Fiction was still one of the best records of 2017 despite the controversy that has completely knocked it off of everyone's year end lists. It's mind boggling to me that everyone is pretending it doesn't exist when those same people couldn't stop talking about it from the release leading up to the scandal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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