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Little bit off topic in terms of talking about Brand New, but... the shit continues hitting the fan, or that's what it looks like...

"A woman has shared on Twitter that she was physically assaulted by Kyle of We Came as Romans at a festival three years ago." You can read the thing here.

 

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3 hours ago, ungroovy said:

I said it on fb, but everyone posted so much shit based on one or two word of mouth allegations half the time, and condemned so many people, but then put their lawyer caps on for Jesse Lacey's time to shine. He's nasty, folks.

Further, when all these people I know absolutely wreck shitty artists in the NC music scene based on similar accusations, sometimes just one single allegation, and then they want to talk about both sides of this issue because it's a decent band and Jesse Lacey... Go fuck yourselves.

I am comfortable with my own assessment, and it's the same assessment I'd have of anyone else. If a whole floodgate of women are saying you did some stupid shit, it's probably true, but I am not the arbiter of justice nor a court of law under any circumstance. It's all just my stupid opinion. Whether or not I can deal with what they did is my own deal, and whether or not other people can do the same is NOT my shit to deal with.

i think its insane how some careers are completely ending over these accusations. like you said, if numerous people are saying it, its probably true. but it could be so easy to ruin someone at this point by anonymously calling in somewhere, making up a story, and collecting a check. i do think that some innocent people will lose their jobs at some point as a result of this trend. most of the people accused probably aren't innocent but it could happen especially considering how vengeful the entertainment industry is. 

aside from all of this, i'm able to "separate the art from the artist" in some circumstances if the art means enough to me. entire films or bands shouldn't be erased from history due to the actions of one person. 

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2 hours ago, bojangles said:

I'm afraid that someone in blink is gonna be accused for something

Our first contact with extra-terrestrial life will probably be some aliens accusing Tom of inappropriately touching them.

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As Bill Burr said, how come none of these guys are denying it?

all jokes aside it is strange that they feel powerful enough to get away with it but not powerful enough to deny it and say its just some crazy fan once it comes out. 

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You can't just give the punchline to a joke without any context and exect us to know what the hell you're talking about?!

 

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9 hours ago, bojangles said:

I'm afraid that someone in blink is gonna be accused for something

I think that was already suggested a few years ago. Ask Olidamus.

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The sad thing is if something does come out, he will be vindicated in his assumptions.

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The original girl who stated that she was 15 decided to provide proof, that proof being two unanswered emails from after she was 18 in 2007, and a message from the band on Myspace regarding the release of Daisy (a few other fans confirmed that they sent out messages about it at the time).

A whole bunch of people who knew her are saying that she did this with multiple dudes in bands and would brag about it, and she posted on Facebook in 2011 about her first Skype session.

So, he still has a history of shitty behavior and problems with sex, which he's been in treatment and sobriety for for years before he got "caught", but it looks an awful lot like he is not a child predator.

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Being 17 when someone asks you for nudes is a little different than being 15, but I understand why it seems wrong and I agree that it was.

I guess it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth or not. I can't really grasp why all of this is put together to be such a bizarre, shitty narrative, but it doesn't matter. Further, if this is all stuff being taken out of context and fabricated by crazed Brand New fans, that just makes this all the more shitty and disappointing as a conclusion to their career.

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I get what you mean, Beth. Totally. And I must add that some girls, those years, acted on purpose. Can you imagine how cool could've been to snag 'that' frontman from 'that' band? I mean, I've seen it at a few small shows here in my hometown. Specially when bands as Sun Eats Hours, back in the day, hit the city.

Of course, that's never an excuse for anyone to get advantage of that situation.

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I mean, it seems so. the guitar tech doesn't seem to like him too much, so maybe.

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Doesn't surprise me that the writer of the pieces of shit that are Daisy and Science Fiction is actually a piece of shit himself. 

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