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A good quality of Motion City Soundtrack is that there's no point in their songs where they feel dated or if they will be dated. They were smart and talented enough to create timeless music but unfortunately they never got big, they deserved much more success than they received. 

I've been on a ridiculous Alkaline Trio kick lately. From Here to Infirmary, Goddamnit and their self title are fucking gold. 

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I actually like MCS a lot more than Alkaline Trio but I can't imagine Justin Pierre in blink. But I couldn't have imagined Skiba in blink either, so hard to say

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1 hour ago, Speedo said:

You still don't, that's a Mark song!

haha you caught me! my bad lol

9 minutes ago, Elisa said:

A good quality of Motion City Soundtrack is that there's no point in their songs where they feel dated or if they will be dated. They were smart and talented enough to create timeless music but unfortunately they never got big, they deserved much more success than they received. 

it’s a downright tragedy MCS weren’t mega famous...they just barely missed it. and i agree w you, their music has a timeless quality that is way above the quality level (to me) of ANY of those bands, blink included.

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Just now, boxelder said:

haha you caught me! my bad lol

it’s a downright tragedy MCS weren’t mega famous...they just barely missed it. and i agree w you, their music has a timeless quality that is way above the quality level (to me) of ANY of those bands, blink included.

Justin Pierre is such an awesome human, too. 

he complimented my Last Night cover and spoke to me about it, and literally the other day on facebook my friend complained a few weeks ago that this super old picture from like 2010 of us meeting MCS was ridiculously dark and you can't see anything, and Justin Pierre responded with "I was born in darkness"

I was creased. I love him lol 

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Just now, Kay said:

Justin Pierre is such an awesome human, too. 

he complimented my Last Night cover and spoke to me about it, and literally the other day on facebook my friend complained a few weeks ago that this super old picture from like 2010 of us meeting MCS was ridiculously dark and you can't see anything, and Justin Pierre responded with "I was born in darkness"

I was creased. I love him lol 

lol nice!! he’s very cool about complimenting fans and engaging online. he seems to be settling into middle age really gracefully, with a lot of hard-earned wisdom and none of the anxieties he sang about plaguing him. he’s pretty rad. i wish they hadn’t broken up, but i like that he can’t quit josh cain and they’re still working together...it’s all they know 

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5 minutes ago, boxelder said:

it’s a downright tragedy MCS weren’t mega famous...they just barely missed it. and i agree w you, their music has a timeless quality that is way above the quality level (to me) of ANY of those bands, blink included.

ehh, couldn't disagree more there. MCS reeks of the post blink pop punk era. very stuck in the late 2000s. that band fell completely off the map for me. good for a nostalgia trip every now and then, but it aged horribly

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I think Justin Pierre comes to mind for a lot of people because he already worked with Mark on two of MCS's best albums and he has a high voice that would contrast with Mark's in a more similar Tom/Mark type of way. I'm not sure how well it would work in reality though since his writing style seems to be very personal/autobiographical and "singular" if that makes sense. Like I imagine him writing fully-formed songs and presenting them to the band for their input straight from his brain rather than starting from scratch and collaborating in the studio the way Blink prefers. I'm not sure how it would end up.

All that aside though, I think Motion City's music and personality as a band was closer to Blink on the pop punk spectrum than Alkaline Trio was. Just tons of catchy-as-fuck melodies and riffs. And I actually think they sound WAYYYYYY more unique and "timeless" as someone said, than the other bands from that Hot Topic mid-2000s era like FOB, The Academy Is, Good Charlotte, etc. It's hard to explain but they always felt more authentic and inched closer to that era's indie rock than the others. Some of their stuff sounds almost like Blink meets Death Cab which was right up my alley at the time (and still is).

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15 minutes ago, Champ182 said:

I think Justin Pierre comes to mind for a lot of people because he already worked with Mark on two of MCS's best albums and he has a high voice that would contrast with Mark's in a more similar Tom/Mark type of way. I'm not sure how well it would work in reality though since his writing style seems to be very personal/autobiographical and "singular" if that makes sense. Like I imagine him writing fully-formed songs and presenting them to the band for their input straight from his brain rather than starting from scratch and collaborating in the studio the way Blink prefers. I'm not sure how it would end up.

All that aside though, I think Motion City's music was closer to Blink on the pop punk spectrum than Alkaline Trio was. Just tons of catchy-as-fuck melodies and riffs. And I actually think they sound WAYYYYYY more unique and "timeless" as someone said, than the other bands from that Hot Topic mid-2000s era like FOB, The Academy Is, Good Charlotte, etc. It's hard to explain but they always felt more authentic and inched closer to that era's indie rock than the others. Some of their stuff sounds almost like Blink meets Death Cab which was right up my alley at the time (and still is).

all truth facts.

I also think people bashed them too hard after Dinosaur Life. I don't know many people who liked 'Go' but I loved it. I mean seriously, there's some amazing fucking tunes on that record. Case and point - 

 

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21 minutes ago, Champ182 said:

I think Justin Pierre comes to mind for a lot of people because he already worked with Mark on two of MCS's best albums and he has a high voice that would contrast with Mark's in a more similar Tom/Mark type of way. I'm not sure how well it would work in reality though since his writing style seems to be very personal/autobiographical and "singular" if that makes sense. Like I imagine him writing fully-formed songs and presenting them to the band for their input straight from his brain rather than starting from scratch and collaborating in the studio the way Blink prefers. I'm not sure how it would end up.

All that aside though, I think Motion City's music was closer to Blink on the pop punk spectrum than Alkaline Trio was. Just tons of catchy-as-fuck melodies and riffs. And I actually think they sound WAYYYYYY more unique and "timeless" as someone said, than the other bands from that Hot Topic mid-2000s era like FOB, The Academy Is, Good Charlotte, etc. It's hard to explain but they always felt more authentic and inched closer to that era's indie rock than the others. Some of their stuff sounds almost like Blink meets Death Cab which was right up my alley at the time (and still is).

all great points. i think their sound/style is certainly more indebted to indie rock titans of the 90s than a band like simple plan, whose only clear reference point was blink lol. while the glossy/brickwalled sound does brings to mind the remnants of the late 00s emo pop explosion (what @Ghent was getting at) i think the albums are aging incredibly, which brings me to what kay said,

8 minutes ago, Kay said:

all truth facts.

I also think people bashed them too hard after Dinosaur Life. I don't know many people who liked 'Go' but I loved it. I mean seriously, there's some amazing fucking tunes on that record. Case and point -

ive always liked this album, but i bought the LP the other day since i dont own it and im currently listening to it now! it's actually really great... it's certainly a downer and has a weird lack of energy compared to other albums, but it feels just right in their catalogue. accessible and poignant. i'm of the opinion that panic stations isn't too bad either, but perhaps i'll warm to that even more as the years go by

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ALK3 > MCS for me, although i have to listen more to the latter, but Trío definetly rocks! Early Skiba (Godammit) or even Crimsom era Skiba is the perfect match for blink in my opinion.

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MCS were hit or miss for me. I was a huge fan of I Am the Movie, Commit This to Memory,  and My Dinosaur Life. I thought Even If It Kills Me was a pretty bad album outside of a couple of tracks (Last Night), and never bothered much with their newer stuff outside of checking out the singles and not being very impressed. 

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9 minutes ago, Cat_Lover182 said:

MCS and Alk3 are both highly overrated on here, but both solid bands with some good tracks.

That's how I feel about Alkaline Trio so I get where you're comin from haha. I like Motion City wayyyy more.

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40 minutes ago, boxelder said:

all great points. i think their sound/style is certainly more indebted to indie rock titans of the 90s than a band like simple plan, whose only clear reference point was blink lol. while the glossy/brickwalled sound does brings to mind the remnants of the late 00s emo pop explosion (what @Ghent was getting at) i think the albums are aging incredibly, which brings me to what kay said,

ive always liked this album, but i bought the LP the other day since i dont own it and im currently listening to it now! it's actually really great... it's certainly a downer and has a weird lack of energy compared to other albums, but it feels just right in their catalogue. accessible and poignant. i'm of the opinion that panic stations isn't too bad either, but perhaps i'll warm to that even more as the years go by

Panic Stations I just couldn't get into. maybe I should try again.

the thing is for me, the best MCS songs were the slower, harder ones. Last Night, Hold Me Down, The Weakends, The Worst Part, etc. I loved those the most - it's probably why I liked Go so much. 

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The Worst Part is a heartbreakingly beautiful song. I actually asked Justin Pierre (via Tumblr) why it remained a b-side and he said it was written before the EIIKM sessions and had already come out. Fair enough, even though it shows up on that deluxe release.

Yeah MCS is very very influenced by 90s indie rock. The Rentals, Weezer, Pavement, Ben Folds Five, Superchunk, Fugazi, etc. So I consider them (in my mind) a 90s -ish band that evolved out the pop-punk/emo landscape of the early 00s. Would Justin Pierre be a good replacement for Tom Delonge? Not typically. He's probably a good choice to put into a band with Mark and Travis though, but he's pretty different than Tom. Say somebody like Ryan Key, to me, would be a more "natural" fit. But hey, good music can come from unlikely sources.

Matt Skiba literally appeared on a song (Avoid One Thing) in the early 00s making fun of pop punk bands trying to sound like Tom Delonge. I still say he's a good fit, but nobody can really be Tom's perfect replacement.

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Throwing MCS in with stereotypical '00s pop punk bands sounds like something a person who had only ever heard The Future Freaks Me Out and Everything Is Alright would say.

They are way more on the indie/poppy side.  Time to go listen to MCS all afternoon!

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I just think the worst part is my kid is 11 now, gonna be 12 in August, and he wants to see blink so bad. So now his first blink show will be the equivalent of a cover band because Matt can't keep up on these same 20ish songs all these years later. 

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6 hours ago, _Kyle_ said:

Oh come on, it wasn't that important of a record. Just their major label debut is all.

which? do you mean my dinosaur life, that was on a major. i'm confused.

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I've tried to listen to Motion City Soundtrack before and honestly I can't get into them. I just find them very generic sounding. Not one song interests me. Prefer Alkaline Trio way more.

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