Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 A couple of them are scientologists. You can have credentials and still be an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I think it is a situation where Tom probably offered them a decent salary and they were just kind of like "whatever you say". If someone offered me a $100K a year retirement job (most seem retired) to stroke a rock stars ego, I'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Olidamus said: I think it is a situation where Tom probably offered them a decent salary and they were just kind of like "whatever you say". If someone offered me a $100K a year retirement job (most seem retired) to stroke a rock stars ego, I'd do it. Yeah maybe, but you also tend to find successful people care about their reputation and take pride in it meaning they wouldn't want their name attached to a project that was destined to fail. Some of these guys are cofounders with Tom, I guess Tom just does a lot of the PR stuff because he has a much bigger reach than the rest of them with his presence on social media/fanbase. I think there is clearly some potential for whatever this is too work, instantly dismissing it because he's fucked around with blink and other things before seems a bit rash to me to be honest. ...this also isn't me saying it's going to be 100% successful either, just looking at it with an open mind and playing devils advocate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 ^^TOMBOT ALERT^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, ...Dan... said: Yeah maybe, but you also tend to find successful people care about their reputation and take pride in it meaning they wouldn't want their name attached to a project that was destined to fail. Some of these guys are cofounders with Tom, I guess Tom just does a lot of the PR stuff because he has a much bigger reach than the rest of them with his presence on social media/fanbase. I think there is clearly some potential for whatever this is too work, instantly dismissing it because he's fucked around with blink and other things before seems a bit rash to me to be honest. ...this also isn't me saying it's going to be 100% successful either, just looking at it with an open mind and playing devils advocate. People are dismissing it because the paper work shows the actual investment side of it is a massive scam, because all of his other business endeavours are in massive debt, and because most of what Tom does is say he 'cant talk about it' whilst citing already debunked terrible X file level things as 'proof'. It's not because he's in blink, it's because everything he's done with this he's presented it with the air of a total bafoon. the entire enterprise is to fund his books and films, thats basically it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 His business model includes telepathy and time travel It's being instantly dismissed because it is fucking retarded and is a total scam to line Tom's wallet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ghent said: His business model includes telepathy and time travel It's being instantly dismissed because it is fucking retarded and is a total scam to line Tom's wallet. Exactly, Dan is like "Give it time it may be a success" What does they mean exactly, they are going to be successful at building alien spaceships or reading people's minds? And they can do all that with a couple million? We know Tom is clearly an expert at this because he things a CGI youtube video is real. Right? Entire thing is a complete joke and its exactly what you said, a lame excuse to prop up Tom's failing ventures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Olidamus said: I think it is a situation where Tom probably offered them a decent salary and they were just kind of like "whatever you say". If someone offered me a $100K a year retirement job (most seem retired) to stroke a rock stars ego, I'd do it. Yup, I believe many of them were considered "consultants" when I read that original document/business plan. There is no way any sane person would leave a top level CIA/NASA job to release Tom Delonge's Strange Time film. If so, Tom massively over exaggerated his amount of "reach" with the youth and they fell for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Let me briefly give you a look at army equipment: We have something called the Firefinder Radar AN/TPQ-36/37. Basically if the enemy shoots a missle at us, this radar detector locates the missle and can send a counter missle to not only intercept the fired missle but destroy the location where it was fired. Pretty cool but nowhere near as crazy as a spaceship. Let me tell you VERY briefly what goes into this, it needs to be designed, it needs to be built, it needs to be maintained, this means tons of contracts with vendors, mutiple warehouses to store spare parts, tons of permits, tons of lawyers, engineers, provisioners, supply specialists, maintenance crew, warehouses. Constant Retrofits, Resets, Refurb, Overhaul, layin parts, design overhaul. A employee base of about 1000 people working on just this alone. As an example, what happens when you get the thing built and there is a technical issues, (there are always hundreds of them). Who figures out the problem? Who redesigns it? Who gets the new parts? Who makes sure they meet codes? Who establishes legal contract for these parts? Who coordinates delivery, installation? This is just one of like thousands of ongoing problems with equipment. What I am speaking of takes not only 15-20 years of work of performance based logistics, its takes hundreds of millions of dollars. I promise you. To think Tom and a few dudes with some spare change could actually even begin to do this, is so ridiculous I can't even begin to comprehend the stupidity of such a thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I was more just playing devils advocate if anything. I haven't read enough into it as I don't overly care about anything he does out of blink. I'd still find it fucking brilliant if it ended up being a success though I'll admit that (I do realise this isn't overly likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 To even entertain the possibility of this being successful is retarded. That's the level of retard we are working with here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent's Brother Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Olidamus said: Let me briefly give you a look at army equipment: We have something called the Firefinder Radar AN/TPQ-36/37. Basically if the enemy shoots a missle at us, this radar detector locates the missle and can send a counter missle to not only intercept the fired missle but destroy the location where it was fired. Pretty cool but nowhere near as crazy as a spaceship. Let me tell you VERY briefly what goes into this, it needs to be designed, it needs to be built, it needs to be maintained, this means tons of contracts with vendors, mutiple warehouses to store spare parts, tons of permits, tons of lawyers, engineers, provisioners, supply specialists, maintenance crew, warehouses. Constant Retrofits, Resets, Refurb, Overhaul, layin parts, design overhaul. A employee base of about 1000 people working on just this alone. As an example, what happens when you get the thing built and there is a technical issues, (there are always hundreds of them). Who figures out the problem? Who redesigns it? Who gets the new parts? Who makes sure they meet codes? Who establishes legal contract for these parts? Who coordinates delivery, installation? This is just one of like thousands of ongoing problems with equipment. What I am speaking of takes not only 15-20 years of work of performance based logistics, its takes hundreds of millions of dollars. I promise you. To think Tom and a few dudes with some spare change could actually even begin to do this, is so ridiculous I can't even begin to comprehend the stupidity of such a thought. This is so true. I work on an Air Force base and the amount of manpower/man-hours required just to maintain and repair ~30 year old tankers is insane. Let alone engineering, building, testing some new aircraft. But I guess that's what the magic UFO technology is for! People are so fucking dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Tom said they will need 7-8 years to engineer and build the ship lol. And people still pretend he's going to be back in Blink sometime soon. No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 If he's not back in blink in 7-8 years it won't have anything to do with an imaginary spaceship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCuomo Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 million dollars to build a godamn spaceship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 43 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said: Tom said they will need 7-8 years to engineer and build the ship lol. And people still pretend he's going to be back in Blink sometime soon. No chance. But he's got a pencil drawing of it. He is almost halfway there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Ghent said: His business model includes telepathy and time travel It's being instantly dismissed because it is fucking retarded and is a total scam to line Tom's wallet. For some weird reason, I believe time travel can exist. But unless it's like some Interstellar loop/black hole kinda shit I don't think it'll ever happen. Telepathy, maybe with technology but not with our minds, which technically isn't telepathy. I've gotta admit I laughed when I first heard Tom talk about time travel and telepathy. Would be great if Tom could travel back to the 70's and 80's and steal the U2 songs before they're even written. Could be his masterplan. To take over the world with AVA by stealing actual U2 songs using time travel. I'm kinda high at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Sure, in terms of the laws of physics time travel could potentially be possible on some level. But Tom Delonge sure as hell isn't mastering it with your $200 donation lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Time travel will never be invented, we know this because no one has ever arrived here from the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSandt Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 And that Interstellar type of "time travel" (being in a frame where clocks run slower relative to other frames), which exists and can be easily proven, probably isn't Tom's idea of time travel. You can't travel back in time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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