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A lot of men have no idea how to flirt or recognize signals. I think men have a preconceived notion that if they slap women's bums or whathaveyou, is that it shows that they like them (forwardly), and thus casting a net to get laid. Otherwise saying to someone point blank you find them attractive, want to hook up, is too awkward and formal to be worth doing. Also men's fragile egos come into play. Men are commonly expected to make the first move, and thus end up making mistakes and prone to misjudgments in their efforts to express their desires. Also how many times have you seen "we got drunk and made out/had sex" scenario played out through the media? It's usually the only way casual hook-ups happen and usually creepy dudes who don't know better use that as their opportunity to get some and thus find themselves being predators/etc. That's the part of "rape culture" I think is very real and very prevalent in our culture. It goes both ways in that some people can't consent casually because of their self-imposed and societal norms dictating it's not a good look to just sleep with just anyone sober or under the right circumstances.

AKA men aren't good at nuance and are indirectly taught to be proactive in their desires. Also those with power tend to wield it to get what they want.

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47 minutes ago, _Kyle_ said:

A lot of men have no idea how to flirt or recognize signals. I think men have a preconceived notion that if they slap women's bums or whathaveyou, is that it shows that they like them (forwardly), and thus casting a net to get laid. Otherwise saying to someone point blank you find them attractive, want to hook up, is too awkward and formal to be worth doing. Also men's fragile egos come into play. Men are commonly expected to make the first move, and thus end up making mistakes and prone to misjudgments in their efforts to express their desires. Also how many times have you seen "we got drunk and made out/had sex" scenario played out through the media? It's usually the only way casual hook-ups happen and usually creepy dudes who don't know better use that as their opportunity to get some and thus find themselves being predators/etc. That's the part of "rape culture" I think is very real and very prevalent in our culture. It goes both ways in that some people can't consent casually because of their self-imposed and societal norms dictating it's not a good look to just sleep with just anyone sober or under the right circumstances.

AKA men aren't good at nuance and are indirectly taught to be proactive in their desires. Also those with power tend to wield it to get what they want.

oh 100%. TV especially has a horrific effect on things like that - you grow up watching sitcoms and you think that to get a date you leer at someone in a club and say "How you doin'?" instead of like, being a normal human and getting to know someone and not objectifying a total stranger.

It has a damaging effect on both sexes in regards to how their 'supposed' to behave and what 'works' and it feeds into the 'women like X, men like X' mentality as well. You hear it all the time "Girls love a bad boy" "She's just playing hard to get" "He's just misunderstood" etc. 

but it's more than just a dating structure either, it applies to general femininity and masculinity. TV teaches that boys need to 'man up' to get laid, that women don't respond to or care about intelligent men, that being a sensitive bloke is a point of humour or being geeky is demeaning - on the flip side, women get taught that men should be forgiven for all and any mistakes provided they buy something or make some grand gesture, or that the world doesn't really care about you unless your attractive, or that the only role you should fill is mother or whore. 

It's horrific on all sides, and gives horrible lessons to all little confused boys and girls. I mean we're hearing all of these harassment stories now, but we're not having any about female predators. Speaking of miss Dunham, she wrote about essentially assaulting her younger sister and sod all happened about it. Women aren't excempt from committing harassment or abusing power - but apparently hollywood hasn't had any of that? 

I mean obviously there's more men in power than women in hollywood and in politics, but I struggle to believe that there aren't some stories on the other end that have so far failed to surface, probably because those assaulted (if men) are more afraid to speak up, or if the media itself doesn't take it seriously because some people genuinely don't put assault via a woman on the same level as assault via a man. 

Like, we're seeing the light on a lot of horrible stories, but as much as these individuals are definitely in the wrong, their still a symptom of a societal problem that isn't going away, and it's also far from the full picture. 

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Women often wonder why they get the guys that are players. It never seems to occur to them that the players are the ones that have the courage to walk up to you.

The guys you want to date, the nice ones, won't approach.

So yeah, just keep waiting for the guy to make the first move and see how that works for ya.

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51 minutes ago, Olidamus said:

Women often wonder why they get the guys that are players. It never seems to occur to them that the players are the ones that have the courage to walk up to you.

The guys you want to date, the nice ones, won't approach.

So yeah, just keep waiting for the guy to make the first move and see how that works for ya.

The bumble creator was wise.

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So Family Guy/Mcfarlane 'predicted' 3 of these events unfolding so far.  Weinstein, Spacey, Braten.

I watched an episode recently where Tom Cruise had a cage of sex slaves and a tracking device on Katie Holmes...

Makes you wonder.

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Pete Wentz dated a 15 year old when he was in his mid 20s...but nothing has been done.  

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