_Kyle_ Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Olidamus said: THe bigger question is does anyone thing Tom will ever hit bottom? Like see all this shit just blow up in his face? Or will he be able to live the rest of his life as a delusional morons pissing away hordes of money on stuff that doesn't sell? I think at a certain point the chickens have to come to roost. But its been 14 years now. Maybe not. I'd say no because he will always think he's too forward thinking and probably too ahead of his time. I'm sure he sees Spotify as something Modlife was supposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Speedo said: Yeah. Money is good. He is a smart man. You'd have done the same. Difficult question to answer. If I was in a band, that was mine, and I had artistic control, and we weren't filthy rich, but we did well, and I was given the option, to go into a band where I am bitch, with no artist control, and be filthy rich. I would pass. In fact, in my own job there are examples of this, I could make a lot more money by putting myself n a shitty situation. I pass. Not worth it. Of course its possible that Matt is okay with being a bitch. That certainly changes the equation. I'd jump at the chance to make money if the situation was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Olidamus said: Difficult question to answer. If I was in a band, that was mine, and I had artistic control, and we weren't filthy rich, but we did well, and I was given the option, to go into a band where I am bitch, with no artist control, and be filthy rich. I would pass. In fact, in my own job there are examples of this, I could make a lot more money by putting myself n a shitty situation. I pass. Not worth it. Of course its possible that Matt is okay with being a bitch. That certainly changes the equation. I'd jump at the chance to make money if the situation was good. There's nothing stopping Matt or you from doing something on the side to stroke your lofty concept of artistic integrity. You know damn well you'd take the money, that's silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 if matt had any balls, he'd tell feldmann to sit down and let the members of blink 182 make the record this time. just sit back and hit the record button when they tell him to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarJarBlinks Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Champ182 said: LMAO good burn. After I typed up my comment I thought "you know, someone is gonna bring that up" haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Speedo said: There's nothing stopping Matt or you from doing something on the side to stroke your lofty concept of artistic integrity. You know damn well you'd take the money, that's silly. Doesn't look like he can do his real band or it significantly impacts it. If I was already rich, no I wouldn't. Money is not everything. It really is amazing the shit people will do for money they really don't need. I'd rather do what I love for less than do what I hate for more. I am being 100% serious. Now in my current situation, of course I'd do it. In Matt's situation? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Olidamus said: Doesn't look like he can do his real band or it significantly impacts it. If I was already rich, no I wouldn't. Money is not everything. It really is amazing the shit people will do for money they really don't need. I'd rather do what I love for less than do what I hate for more. I am being 100% serious. Now in my current situation, of course I'd do it. In Matt's situation? Probably not. Jesus Christ, I agree with you, but this sentiment coming from you - Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy030 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Olidamus said: THe bigger question is does anyone thing Tom will ever hit bottom? Like see all this shit just blow up in his face? Or will he be able to live the rest of his life as a delusional morons pissing away hordes of money on stuff that doesn't sell? I think at a certain point the chickens have to come to roost. But its been 14 years now. Maybe not. he has got to be kicking himself over this Vegas residency. The $$$ they're going to make of this thing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Chewy030 said: he has got to be kicking himself over this Vegas residency. The $$$ they're going to make of this thing... The royalties he's still making has probably got him smiling. You can't cover someone's song's without paying him off in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nshesaid said: The royalties he's still making has probably got him smiling. You can't cover someone's song's without paying him off in some way. You can do whatever you want live. You can't record someone's songs without paying or getting permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Speedo said: You can do whatever you want live. You can't record someone's songs without paying or getting permission. No kidding. Thought cover bands needed a license/permission to do so also. Ppl plop YouTube covers up daily, wonder where that lays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Besides, the songs are owned by Blink 182, Tom may still be a partner in that but he doesn't have ownership of songs he wrote. That isn't how bands work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nshesaid said: No kidding. Thought cover bands needed a license/permission to do so also. Ppl plop YouTube covers up daily, wonder where that lays. @Kvothe Can probably explain it better than I can. Honestly, most of the time the artists are pretty cool about it... I've only really had experience with the punk scene so take it for what it is but any time I've asked to cover a song for a recording or use a song in a project everyone has been super gracious and accommodating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said: LMAO good burn. After I typed up my comment I thought "you know, someone is gonna bring that up" haha. Haha I mostly just like using that pic as a meme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Olidamus said: Difficult question to answer. If I was in a band, that was mine, and I had artistic control, and we weren't filthy rich, but we did well, and I was given the option, to go into a band where I am bitch, with no artist control, and be filthy rich. I would pass. Ehhh I bet Skiba makes more off one Blink show than he did in a full year with Alk3... so it is a huge difference. At some point you've gotta start to realize you are worth more than what you were getting, and also want to make sure you are set for life. You can always go back and play Alk3 shows. It's just gotta suck singing some stupid corny song like First Date and having 20k people go nuts, when you have written such deep beautiful songs that no one really cares about lol. O'well, that new Audi doesn't discriminate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said: ****Took his time paying Rubin to write Dream Walker for him**** Fixed. Haha, it's true that Rubin had a lot of artistic control over the Dream Walker. But it's apples & oranges when compared to blink with Feldman in my opinion. Rubin was the drummer and actually part of the band, and his influence on the album is obvious. He essentially did what Skiba should've been doing in blink. Feldman was the producer, making California sound like a forced step back to the Enema/Take Off albums in order to make blink more relevant in the mainstream again despite not being part of the band. There was no Skiba influence at all in the sound of California. The guy was pretty much a session guitarist/singer instead of an actual band member. Skiba's situation is like David & Matt when they were in AVA, hardly any input whatsoever unless it's lyrics. Really he should've been bringing his own sound to blink, which is exactly what Rubin did with AVA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Speedo said: @Kvothe Can probably explain it better than I can. Honestly, most of the time the artists are pretty cool about it... I've only really had experience with the punk scene so take it for what it is but any time I've asked to cover a song for a recording or use a song in a project everyone has been super gracious and accommodating. I've posted a bunch of covers on youtube - none have done well, but all were flagged and demonetised, and that includes The Misfits and Against Me, so its not just popular stuff. Labels clamped down on it on youtube really hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kay said: I've posted a bunch of covers on youtube - none have done well, but all were flagged and demonetised, and that includes The Misfits and Against Me, so its not just popular stuff. Labels clamped down on it on youtube really hard. Flagged as in full on strike? or just demonitized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horchata Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 1:30 AM, Cheerios4u98 said: @horchata actually made a version of this that you can buy. Sadly, the link is now down. I actually own this shirt. I'll look for pictures. I might be able to put the link back up. I ordered myself one and am still very happy with the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Ry-Bread said: Ehhh I bet Skiba makes more off one Blink show than he did in a full year with Alk3... so it is a huge difference. At some point you've gotta start to realize you are worth more than what you were getting, and also want to make sure you are set for life. You can always go back and play Alk3 shows. It's just gotta suck singing some stupid corny song like First Date and having 20k people go nuts, when you have written such deep beautiful songs that no one really cares about lol. O'well, that new Audi doesn't discriminate! Skiba is certainly not worth whatever Blink is paying him. I could do a better job ^ This statement led to a guitar competition. But most people could. I'm betting Skiba was set for life with AK3. I bet he was a millionaire. Again, in his position, I would not be someone's bitch for a better payday. I could double my salary being someone's bitch, being in a crappy situation. It is a big NO THANK YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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