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  1. I work at the san diego zoo safari park and yesterday Mark and his family were there and I got to meet him. Absolutely crazy experience, I shook his hand and told him how much blink 182 means to me and also told him i was listening to dogs eating dogs on my way to work that morning. He was super nice and grateful and went out of his way to talk to me.
    11 points
  2. the fact he gets "writing" credits says he wrote some of the songs.
    6 points
  3. Exactly this. We know Feldman did more than "give instructions and ideas" because he got writing credits and Finn did not. You can argue the extent all you want, but there's a reason feldmann got writing credits. It's because he did more than the average producer of just giving those instructions and ideas that ghost so eloquently described. He killed it with his two posts on this page.
    4 points
  4. I thought he said it was because they loved the Ramones.
    3 points
  5. Tom DeLonge has always been the master of advertisements and announcements.
    3 points
  6. maybe tom is actually trolling everyone. his jokes may just be ahead of our time.
    3 points
  7. Despite all the Finn vs Felmann comparison, Zoltan, with all my respect, you are 100% wrong saying there's no difference between suggesting some idea for a song, and co-writing it. They are different things. I mean, way different things. To suggest an idea coming from a producer can be, for example, using that amp instead that other, picking up that guitar instead that one, using those both cabinets instead that only one, applying some fuzz on the base tone, shorten up that bridge, change that word for this one better, just add another round of verse-chorus, using a bigger charles... and if you pay attention, none of those are involved with the wrting process. The song is there, the producer is bringin his knowledge to the table in order to make the best choices for the songs. Is more about searching for a sound, making an existing thing just better, putting the accent there where is needed. Similar to what an editor does when you write a book. Does that mean he's a co-author? Hell no. He just helps to achieve the perfect shape for your song in case you need it. To co-write a song is a pretty different thing. If you're a co-writer or co-author, you just are making your very input into the song. You're adding parts that are yours into the song, production things aside. You bring a chorus, a verse, lyrics, a whole song. You are writing the parts, not helping to achieve the best sound on the existing ones. Sounds pretty different to me, mate.
    3 points
  8. nobody is saying otherwise. also, jerry wasn't a guitarist or a vocalist. he wasn't writing material for them. i guarantee feldmann has a whole sound bank of riffs and vocal melodies that he wrote and saves for every band he produces in the event that he believes a song needs them. it gets him writing credits, more money, and now he gets to be grammy nominated. i seriously doubt the album that feldmann scrapped had anything to do with it not being good. he saw it as a massive opportunity for him to slap on his name all over new material
    2 points
  9. Number 2 for me. MJ then Kobe. I don't know if I've seen any other players other than those 2, who have that natural killer instincts they have. (And can actually pull it off.)
    2 points
  10. You're missing the joke, bud.
    2 points
  11. Sober is the example of a song where you can feel that their songwriting has become like a homework where Feldmann is the teacher and says "okay Matt, write something about your fucked up adolescence to fill this empty verse" and he goes with that verse that it might be personal and true but it's also meaningless, compared to his usual songwriting. It didn't feel that way with Neighborhoods, even though we all know that some songs weren't great, but at least there was some kind of heart in it and they didn't write random lyrics just to get through the song.
    2 points
  12. I'm hoping for a TRIPLE disc with Goldfingers Greatest Hits included.
    2 points
  13. 11 years ago today, Kobe scores 81 points in a game. Today the Lakers made history losing by their biggest margin ever and only scored 73 points. This is so depressing for a Lakers fan lol.
    1 point
  14. That's tough, because his championships have all been so spoiled.. yes he has performed well and last year boosted him up a lot for me, but you cannot deny how much he's stacked and then gotten bailed out. Doesn't hurt him, but doesn't feel like if Dirk or somebody were to get 3 championships as the man... You'd value them differently. Dirk's one championship is equally as impressive as all of LeBrons combined imo.
    1 point
  15. Totally totally agree with what you're saying. For example you can't compare Kobe to Magic for the best laker or something like that. They played on different times. And yeah I'm a huge Kobe fan too. The killer instinct of Kobe and MJ though. Who can compare to this? Also I know nobody here is a lebron fan and I'm not ether, although I don't dislike the dude that much, if let's say he wins 2 more championships you think he can be compared to kobe?
    1 point
  16. I'm one of the biggest Kobe fans out there but I don't have him at the top of my list. I would put him between 3-5 on the all time list. I would say he is one of the best offensive players ever to play the game though. And no one was as competitive as Kobe or MJ. To best honest though, I hate rating players because of all the different decades they played in. It's kind of unfair because a lot of them played at different times. Kobe played during a complete different time compared to guys like Wilt Chamberlain and Larry Bird and the game wasn't the same. A lot of us also never got to see players like Magic, Jordan or Bird play in their prime, so we are just going off stats and highlights. I started really getting into basketball in the early 2000's so I try to keep my lists based on the last 17 years.
    1 point
  17. He did not appear to get any sort of special treatment, they were just walking around like everyday visitors. They looked like they were attending something close to my booth called flightline/jungle ropes. It was cool, they walked by my booth several times and it was rad hearing them just have everyday family type conversations. There was a kid with them that I am pretty sure was Jack. He is getting tall. Across from my booth is a facepainting booth and apperently Mark jokingly asked if they could do a facepaint of a skull and cross bones and a bat or something like that haha.
    1 point
  18. Definitely helped their cause. The HOF seems to be pretty surface level, if you have hits you're more likely to get in.
    1 point
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  20. Tom vs feldman in a pudding bowl wrestling match
    1 point
  21. Kawaii. MVP.
    1 point
  22. Wait you've never? Will totally change your whole perspective. Nearly every made shot is 10x more exciting in person and dunks are insanely crazy seeing live.
    1 point
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  24. I just have a feeling the +44/Alkaline sound would've been way better than what we got. Feldman probably heard it and told them to sound like All Time Low or something. There were probably no woahs or nananas either. Blink were already the masters of pop punk and skate punk. But Feldman saw something else for them to master. He thought blink could outshine the Offspring when it came to woahs. That's how I like to think of it anyway. The other day, I listened to Good Charlotte's album from last summer, produced by Feldman. For curiosity reasons. There's a shit load of woahs on that too.
    1 point
  25. Mate, I just said "Despite all the Finn vs Felmann comparison..." at the beginning of my post, so, what I'm saying is that your statement or suggestion about production and songwritting being the same thing is absolutely wrong. And still is. In fact, you literally said "there's absolutely no difference between suggesting changes and co-writing." And thats just false. I was only talking about those concepts and how different they are. Reasons were exposed on that same post. If you now are qualifying what you said, or changing it -saying that producers can be involved on the writing process-, that's not my business. I was responding to you on a early statement. But, just for the record, and now that you said that, yep. I agree: producers can be involved on writing process, even o the studio performances, but that doesn't have anything to do with production itself. That's what Feldmann did, clearly -not playing instruments-, no matter what the credits say on the album. Everyone ho has ears can tell that there's something that is not blink-182 on this record, neither Skiba's input, so... we only have one last person to 'blame' about that. To what extent did he wrote some parts? Well, I can't tell. That's pure speculation because no one was there except them. But also, anyone who has ears can tell that Jerry Finn, at least on Enema of the State, didn'd had the same approach that had Feldmann on California. If you listen to Enema demos, and later on, to the final album, you can figure out, pretty much, what Finn did: produce the record, find the sounds, polish the sound of it, maybe suggest some tempos, but the songs were there already. And as I said before on other post, if you don't believe it, just grab the Good Mourning demos or Crimsom ones from Alkaline Trio and compare them to the final album too, which was produced by Jerry Finn too, and you will see Finn's input was only production. Yes, they can tweak more or less the songs, but them were there already when they hit the studio to work on the albums. That's the crucial difference. No one was writing for them. If you want to deny what the band or Feldmann himself have said on some interviews about how they four wote the album, that's up to you. If you want to ignore the evidence that you can find comparing Enema, Good Mourning and Crimsom demos to their repective final versions as proof of what was Finn's modus operandi, that's up to you too. But to know that is not manipulation, mate, is just accepting the actual facts as they are speaking by themselves.
    1 point
  26. but what does all this mean in blink land? how do we know that feldmann did more than giving instructions and ideas? because travis said "john and us wrote 2 songs every day"? or because feldmann said "we wrote this song"? why do we think their wording is the absolute truth? where is the proof that shows that feldmann wrote lyrics or feldmann played guitar parts? i think there's no such thing, because feldmann did not write the songs. he suggested ideas for sure, but that's it. i don't think i'm 100% wrong when i'm saying producers can be involved in the writing process, too. maybe there is an old standard where a producer's job is strictly happens after writing, and it's just technical improvements (as you said above). but that's absolutely not the case nowadays. when you are working with a producer, he won't wait for you to finish writing the songs, he does his own work in parallel with you: he does the improvements at the earliest possible stage... i accept that this work counts as "writing" or "co-writing" in someone's dictionary. that's why i said earlier that nowadays all/most producers are co-writers - their main task contains subtasks that can be seen as writing. do we think that jerry finn was sitting around mutely while mark and tom wrote their songs? when he was there, he obviously added something. just like feldmann. (maybe feldmann added more because he spent more time with the band, or because the timeframe was shorter and they needed to hurry.) it's crazy how people can be manipulated. they should have never mentioned the word "write" in the same sentence with feldmann's name, and none of you would think feldmann was more involved than finn. and i still think they meant something else when they used the word "write". how would it be logical to anyone that travis proudly talks about "we were blessed with jerry finn, because most producers write complete songs for bands, but he wasn't this type, he just instructed us", then months later he announces that "feldmann wrote this album for us, and it's the best thing"? it's not proof of anything, it's just bad wording. again: if a band and their producer are working together and they're creating 20 songs in 2 weeks, it is impossible to completely isolate the songwriting time from the producing time. and these days bands do it this way. they don't spend 6 months at home to write songs alone and another month to create a complete demo (80%) that will be showed to the producer (who adds his 20%)... they use a faster process now: a member writes a short part, another member writes another, the producer figures out how to connect them, they agree on a lyrical theme, and the song can be recorded within hours. it was just a rough example, but you can believe me, it's not a feldmann specific thing, it happened this way more than we would think.
    1 point
  27. Great post, I've tried explaining that difference several times but you put it better than I did I think haha
    1 point
  28. there's absolutely no difference between suggesting changes and co-writing. it's a play with words. essentially they are the same thing. they modify the songs. you don't exaxtly know how feldmann "wrote" those changes. i believe he showed an idea to mark or matt, and mark or matt played it on their instruments... you don't exactly know how finn "suggested" those changes. i believe he showed an idea to mark or tom, and mark or tom played it on their instruments... i can't imagine what the fuck are you thinking? do you think feldmann wrote a song, gave it to blink, and they recorded it? also: "Travis Barker specifically said Jerry didn't write the music." proof??? "Feldman is saying "Hey guys I wrote a chorus for Bored to Death"." proof???
    1 point
  29. Or Feldmann wanted his cut and wanted writing credits? Feldmann undoubtedly contributed to these songs in a way that Finn hadn't.
    1 point
  30. Why didn't Blink discard all the Enema stuff when Finn came on board like they did with Feldman? That alone is so telling. I am killing you guys with facts and you run and hide. Its sad honestly.
    1 point
  31. You have one little problem with all of this, Travis Barker specifically said Jerry didn't write the music. Are you calling him a liar? Because he was there. Again, I agree that Finn did what most producers do, they help select the songs, they suggest improvements, they work their magic on the sound, and they tell bands when shit isn't working on specific songs. I got that. Guess what? That ain't what Feldman did!!!!!!!! Feldman helped write the fucking music!!! The fact that you can't see the difference is really insane. Finn is taking an already written song and improving the sound, Feldman is saying "Hey guys I wrote a chorus for Bored to Death". There is a difference!!!! I can't believe people still aren't getting it!!!!!
    1 point
  32. Annddd, someone decided this was a good weekend to try a new drug..
    1 point
  33. Maybe a quadruple disc where the fourth disc is footage of Feldman, Mark, Travis and Skiba fucking each other
    1 point
  34. this is why blink never "sold out" (despite everyone in the socal scene, including me, saying at the time that they did). to "sell out" you have to have stood for something before. mark and tom (and i say mark and tom, because scott's dissension about this is one of the reasons he left the band) since the very beginning were like "we want to be rich and famous." and they worked their asses off to do so. sure, that resulted in terrible songs like all the small things and first date, but i have to admire them for having a goal, pursuing it doggedly, and succeeding.
    1 point
  35. yea, the people who overestimate jerry finn's role on enema are super reaching. i can buy it on jacket, just by going over all the online video tidbits and studio updates that were posted during the making of that record. the label told finn, look, we need enema part 2 in terms of hits and sales figures, and jerry had the band deliver on that. with regards to enema, it's clear from the demos (cut without him in the picture at all) that his influence on the album was on sound and recording technique, not writing or arrangement.
    1 point
  36. and let's not forget, those demos were recorded at DML studios in escondido with don lithgow, and jerry finn was not involved with them in any way.
    1 point
  37. It's actually more aggressive than Enema. Tonally darler as well.
    1 point
  38. I went to the Orlando show, JEW GD and B182, such a fcking rad show! Was the the first time I saw Green Day live and was very impressed by their show!
    1 point
  39. I hope it sounds like Angels & Airwaves.
    1 point
  40. Hoping for something different. Can't those guys read twitter comments? Someone should let mark know that there were enough woahs on California and they don't need anymore lol. i hope they call it something and make it its own record California deluxe is lame.
    1 point
  41. I really hope it's not re sequenced with California and they're just 14 songs on their own.
    1 point
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