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  1. 32 minutes ago, Live Fast Die Fun said:

    I don’t know how to make this any more simple. I will try once more . In the start someone said that Sum 41 announced an album a year ago and have said nothing since - kind of like blink 6 months ago and nothing til 182 days after Edging (April 14th) … so I was saying - it’s MORE LIKELY that Sum 41 would take forever to release a DOUBLE album (which is what it is) and MORE LIKELY they’d have a big gap between announcement and release BECAUSE- their songs are FAR MORE INTRICATE , well put together , they have time signature  changes , orchestral parts , horn sections , more musicians collaborating and writing together and more studio gear .. meaning more load in and out /set up and tear down times as well as more minds coming together for one album becuase there is just simply MORE to do - for everyone .. the engineer , the producers , the mastering artists - the actual musicians … everything , it’s GOING TO TAKE LONGER - no matter what - for a double Sum 41 album than an album by blink that is looking like it’s gonna be going back to Enema / TOYPAJ style - Enema took what - 2 weeks to write and record? Blink aren’t gonna lay down anything astronomical - nothing is going to wow anyone , nothing is going to be looked back at as a masterpiece for the ages by EITHER band - but especially not blink 182 . I have spent a long time in and around the music industry and used to do audio engineering a lot … I understand how long albums take to record and put together , I’ve seen it done many many times - and it’s just factual that blink SHOULD be quicker to record an album - yes Travis had his “injury” - but he seems to be slapping the skins just fine in a month , not a huge set back . The biggest experiment we KNOW of on this album is double kick pedals - we’re not expecting another Self Titled - therefore it is COMMON SENSE- that it’s not going to be astronomically different than what Edging sounds like being as it’s confirmed Edging is on the album. It shouldn’t take as long as Sum 41 doing a double album . That is the point . Did I make that simple enough this time? 

    Nah man. Bunch of nonsense…

    This isn‘t science or math my guy

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  2. 29 minutes ago, Live Fast Die Fun said:

    Have you ever seen Tom DeLonge play his songs live . Case closed lol 

    mind you Tom is literally my favourite musician …

    but once again - it doesn’t just have to do with the musicians recording . If you have an album with songs that have time signature changes , changes in sound , big breakdowns , multiple instruments all doing complex or large things … it’s GOING TO take longer than a 4 chord pop punk album . Period , full stop. 


    if tom struggles so much to play guitar correctly live, how does that equal to you in him needing less time to lay down a great take?

    Why would it take longer to record 8 different chords than the same 4 chords twice? Why would it take longer to track a 4 minute song with different time signatures than a 4 minute song in 4/4?

    if sum41 are much more capable on their instruments they should need less time to record…

    You make no sense

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  3. 16 minutes ago, Live Fast Die Fun said:

    Imagine missing the entire point of what was being said even though it was explained quite clearly. The point is and always was - A Sum 41 double album would take longer to write (or should) than a single blink 182 album because their musicianship , talent level and song complexity far exceeds anything the other band could ever come remotely close to touching.

     

    keep up son. 

    Still a shit take tbh. Some bands write and record an album in a week, some bands take 2 years for that.  Has nothing to do with complexity. It is not comparable

    i would argue it takes more time to write good music with fewer elements.  

    It would also take a „more skilled“ band less time/takes to get things right, don‘t you think?

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  4. 42 minutes ago, OnlineAlpha said:

    That means nothing. That’s a more red/orange than a pink anyways, they also record all of their songs. Let me know when this dude starts changing his entire image , wearing makeup and taking cute photo shoots with hair plugs while having someone else record the music for him. 
     

    So, to repeat my question, why is the hype odd? Because it’s not bubblegum for little Jan?

    if fucking knew it was you, orange misfit

  5. 9 minutes ago, Ghost said:

    Well, then you go to youtube and search for real amped pro concerts and see that this is not true. I see where are you coming from, but in professional environments this was not a problem. This sounds sick, but you have tons of sources, pro and not pro filmed.

    I can understand the other reasons, though.

     i absolutely get that. a lot of the newer livestreams sound bland in comparison to older streams. the way amps work and how they need to be mixed has changed. a lot of people mixing those live-streams are treating the signal the same as 20 years ago. Mixing mic'd amps has been perfected for half a century. good modellers are still a relatively new technology

    the sonic chaos and muddy-ness of the amp-days has it's charm as well, and many people(including myself) miss that. but it's not that the new technology can't match the quality. it's that the new technology erased a lot of problems and need to be treated differently.

    it's a similiar story with vinyl/tape. People in the 80's would've killed to get rid of the noisefloor/saturation and inconsistency. nowadays, some people tend to miss it, degrade their recordings on purpose (which is absolutely fine!)

     

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  6. as for the sound, i'm 100% sure 99.9% of the crowd wouldn't notice.

    The guy at JHS pedals ( a boutique Pedal manufacturer from the US) has a huge youtube channel for gearnerds and swapped out his tube amp with a kemper for over a year without telling (in an attempt to troll) and nobody of the "tone-experts" even noticed

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  7. it makes absolutely no sense for any touring band to use real amps live unless they have an endorsement with some brand. or they prefer the look, think it's cool.

    touring tube amps are always at risk of breaking, they're loud as fuck on stage  so they constantly bleed in the vocal mics and make the  mix muddy, they are much more inconsistent etc....

    it's also ridiculous these days to drive a shitton of amps through the country/world when you could use something as big as a handbag and is more reliable and consistent.

    a small band playing club shows with people right up to the stage and a small PA system is a different story, but even then it makes much more sense in a lot of situations

    i would also argue that a modeller/profiler sounds much better at the gig itself-> running through big speakers compared to livestreams/liverecordings....

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  8. 39 minutes ago, OnlineAlpha said:

    I’m not talking about the drumming, so you guys can stop bringing that up. I’m talking about the dynamic between the band members. You could plug in whoever the fuck you propose up there, they could nail the songs, and the dynamic wouldn’t be the same between Mark and Tom. It wouldn’t feel as great up there for them without their brother Travis. That’s what I’m saying and it’s silly you can’t admit that. It’s also silly for folks like Neal to act like I’m crazy by making this point. Anyways move on, I’m not trying to rain on the parade here over your dumb take 😛

    mark and tom were waiting behind the stage for their big comeback and travis was filming cringe instagram content with kourtney. travis can get in the fucking bin.

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  9. Everbody is hyped and getting along, here comes diddy trying to squeeze out a „i told you so“ moment.

    nobody ever said travis is a shit drummer.  Was it great to have the three of them on that stage? Absolutely. Would it been different with another drummer? Of course, but not worse than the show not happening at all.

    i don‘t see the point in arguing about this other than forcing drama

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  10. Blink is one of the biggest bands in a genre that relies probably the most on heavy studio doctoring besides radio pop. I don‘t see an issue with them using some pitch-correction live.

    i think people over estimate what auto-tune can do. You have to sing quite decent for it to sound good, it‘s no voodoo magic

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