juice182 Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 i want to learn drums, and i am considering getting some electronic drums. good idea or bad idea? Quote
tom18222 Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 considering how expensive they are, yes Quote
juice182 Posted January 31, 2007 Author Posted January 31, 2007 arent they close to how much normal drum sets are? srry im very new to drums. Quote
Brae. Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 They can range between $350 to $4000. Of course, the more you pay, the better the set and more realistic It'll sound. I find it easier to make shitty acoustic drums sound better than an electric kit with good heads and tuning. Then again, an electric kit can have 1000's of sounds with preset kits already programmed, or you can program your own. If I had the money, I'd buy one in an instant, nothing like silent and convenient practising. Not to mention the fact that they are a 1000 times easier to lug to a gig than an acoustic set. Quote
drummer28 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 imo i think they can make a newer player think they play better than they actually do...If that Makes sense. Dont get me wrong i love how they sound, they are great for practice, and its great to be able to change the sounds of the kit with a few changes to the module. I would spend half the money of a good electric kit and get a mid level kit like a pearl or a pdp. just my two cents though. Quote
juice182 Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 im thinking about buying an 800 dollar yamaha electric set to learn on. is that an ok price or should i look more at a 1000 dollar set. how do they make you think you sound better? Quote
drummer28 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 I think that is is easier to use technique on electric drums than acoustic....I maybe better off saying that that technique will sound cleaner than it sometimes can on acoustic drums. I don't want to confuse you at all. For someone who is learning yes that price range is fine, and if its the set I'm thinking of it sounds pretty good for the money. I just think if your ever going to get super heavy into band playing that you might want to get an acoustic kit. Sure you might spend alittle more at first for a kit, hardware, cymbals and such, in the long run to add on buy speakers for the electric kit it may cost more. Like i said before though its my own opinion i don't disklike electrics any more than acoustics or the other way around. If your just going to play on your own with the intent on just learning electrics maybe a good start cause they can provide play along clicks, and music through the module which is good to work on different time sigs, techniques and so on. Best of luck with persuing drumming, and what ever you purchase, everything is fun to do Quote
juice182 Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 thanks, i appriciate it. once i get the money, i will probably get the electric drums, for the sake of my neighborhood lol. Quote
have heart Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 im thinking about buying an 800 dollar yamaha electric set to learn on. is that an ok price or should i look more at a 1000 dollar set. how do they make you think you sound better? yeh that is a good price. It depends why you want an electric drum kit for - does your Mum or whoever not want it to be loud, all that shit. What are the reasons you want an electric kit? But to be honest real kits are better than electric ones. I have a Roland TD-3 Electric, its amazing but i still think normal kits are better. Quote
8 Ball Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 Sound wise, electronic kits for the typical musician can easily surpass the sound quality of any acoustic set in a recording situation. However, any "plug and play" kit you buy off the rack will not be setup to do so. Most companies that sell these kits; Roland, Alesis, Yamaha, etc. realize who their market is and know how to get them to purchase their product. The musician will go and try out certain electronic kits in the store, and the huge drawback always is that they hear the sounds are of bad quality, so they will most likely choose the ones in which they percieve the sound quality to be the best to avoid this drawback. There is the problem. These kits are made to sound good right out of the box, and well, they do for the most part. You set it up, patch the pads into the module and your good to go and hear some great sounds. The reason why they sound good is because the original drum signals have all gone through an extensive amount of processing. They all usually have preprocessed EQs, compression, reverberation, etc. Now while that may make it sound good right out of the box (the same sound you hear when you're trying it out and deciding which to purchase), once you track it or even just throw it in a mix it with other instrumentation all of that processing becomes one large blunder. My recommendation, an easy way to avoid these headaches, buy whichever pads feel the most comfortable and forget about the module. Find a trigger to midi converter and run it through a midi interface to your computer. Now you can route your pads to unprocessed sounds such as DFH Superior. It may not sound as good as the modules right out the box..... so what will it sound like? A real acoustic kit is the answer to that. The exact same sound (with fairly flat tuned reference monitors that is) as a well maintained DW, Sonor, Ludwig, etc. kit. Once you have dialed in the samples you prefer, you can then equalize them, run compression on each of the drums, add a reverb, and then throw on any thing else you think you might like. Quote
juice182 Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 i wish i knew things like you^ i want electric drums because of the convienience of them as well as i love the song of it. like the secret handshake, +44, the postal service. i want drums like that because dont you need electric drums to get the sound? Quote
Brae. Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 i wish i knew things like you^ i want electric drums because of the convienience of them as well as i love the song of it. like the secret handshake, +44, the postal service. i want drums like that because dont you need electric drums to get the sound? Sometimes yes, but not always. Most of the time it comes down to the size of the drum, the heads, and the tuning. If you want a very electronic sounding kit let me suggest these sizes(what I would use): 13" x 6.5" Snare 10" x 5" Snare (secondary snare) 12" x 7" Tom 14" x 11" Floor Tom 18" x 18" bass drum Some companies such as Taye make little traveller kits, which are great quality and would also be great for playing that type of music. What I listed above is what I would use. FYI, Yamaha Electric kits are great kits, The DTXplorer line is amazing, worth the money all the way. Quote
juice182 Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 is there anything yamaha doesnt make that isnt kick ass? Quote
The Original Brendan Posted February 4, 2007 Posted February 4, 2007 most of the postal service drums are programmed. its not a real kit. Quote
Brae. Posted February 4, 2007 Posted February 4, 2007 most of the postal service drums are programmed. its not a real kit. In which case, you could always just buy a drum machine. Or Alesis' new Control Pad. It's a USB/MIDI percussion controler and is small enough to carry under your arm. It has 8 pads, all high quality and velocity sensitive. 2 switch pedal inputs, 2 trigger inputs for connecting other external pads, an up and down footswitch input. Its PC and Mac compatable. Check it out at alesis.com Quote
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