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51 minutes ago, ...Dan... said:

I'm not saying Ronaldo doesn't have natural ability, Messi is just another level and is better technically - I struggle to see how anyone can say otherwise. 

Edge of your seat is debatable, basically all of Ronaldo's goals since rejoining Man United have been tap ins and goalkeeping errors. Sure you have to be in the right place at the right time but noone was ever on the edge of their seat watching Inzaghi which is basically what he is now. 

Messi turned it on against Man City in the CL and scored a great goal against top opposition when it really mattered.

Ronaldo isn't carrying Portugal either, their team is littered with talent - great players and cover in basically every position.

Either way, agree to disagree. Just wanted to state my opinion on the matter as per usual. 

I wouldn't say another level - its just different, almost like power vs grace. Its only a struggle if you can't accept other opinions on what 'technical' or 'natural ability' is. 

There is more to his game than just tap ins - sheer ignorance to say otherwise. And what exactly has Messi done in the same time in a piss poor league? throw a strop when he got subbed? How exciting. Great goal against City but that's it really - im sure he'll score 30+  but its just not the same doing it in that league.  

Of course he's carrying Portugal - look at his goals in the last few games, he singlehandedly won them the game in the dying minutes vs Ireland, he's scoring consistently every game, they are dreadful without him. 

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He’s been a disaster this season. We’re utterly clueless though. The ‘coaching’ is horrific. We’ll probably beat Liverpool next weekend though. Ole will pick a team to save himself it’ll probably be something like this 

Dave

AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw

Fred Mctom

Lingard Bruno Rashford

Ronaldo

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I actually watched the full 90 mins yesterday and while Maguire made the noticeable individual errors, the whole team was basically a carcrash.

Sancho looks completely lost and Ronaldo offered absolutely nothing, couldn't even stay onside for that cross from Rashford where he was looking across the line. 

I honestly think Cavani would be a better option than Ronaldo at the moment, Greenwood, Cavani and Rashford would be far more dynamic but doubt Ole has the minerals.

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Ronaldo is a luxury player. Put him in city side and he’s the best player in the world instantly but put him in this disjointed mess and his performances are poor. It’s not his fault, in fact none of this is the players fault imo I’m bored of blaming the players it comes down to coaching ffs and we have a bunch of fucking amateurs 

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Look at Brentford yesterday. They have that moneyball system in place so really they have a team of absolute fucking nobodies and they made chelsea look like a mid table side clinging onto a smash and grab. They play much better football than United and they would of battered us yesterday. That cannot be right. It’s the coaching. Get fucking rid of the cunts. Manchester United ffs and we have a whole coaching side learning on the job. It’s fucking mental

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The problem with Maguire's errors is that its always when there is no immediate danger - its such a shame we spent £80m on him and he's our captain - embarrassing really, he's doing this every single match. Ole should never have played him. No pressing from any of the front 5. 

Time for a change

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Good win for us yesterday, surprised Everton were so high in the table before yesterday, they were really poor.

I know they are missing their two main attackers but this is basically the same team that could have easily won at Old Trafford the other week and with our overall record at Goodison I feared the worst.

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