Neon Light Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Tiring stuff reading the last few pages of this thread. Let's just wait for the albums to come out before we judge Green Day on their music, personal life and whatever else you want. The first of which comes out in 4 days, or 8 depending where you live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b00bies Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 TreFool needs to learn more than playing the same hi-hat beat and a few pam pa da bam du pam fills. it's all the same. is he deaf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 1. When and where have I personally attacked you? Have you gone hysterical? I've pointed out your own hypocrisies. You're not off limits you know. 2. Again, you have no clue what they do with their money. You do not know them personally. Stop assuming they only hoard money. 3. Twisting words? What am I twisting? I explained they wouldn't in their right mind give the government private donations because it would be stupid, as you've suggested they do. They believe the government should tax them and the rich more. That doesn't mean they should give their money away. They want to change the system, do you not understand that? Even if they gave every penny they had, it would be a drop in the bucket. It proves nothing but their generosity and in my opinion foolishness. 4. and it's not like you didn't use your government job to look up Tom Delonge's personal information about and how much his mansion was worth either? Yeah, that's kind of psychotic and pretty much damns you in the whole "I'm not obsessed with money" bugok. Face it Oliver, you have no argument, you make up shit, and you are obsessed with money and people who are better off than you. A personal attack is when you are debating something and you make it personal. This is a common tactic to put the person on the defensive and to get off the original topic. You do this as soon as you bring up what I do in my personal life. It is not something I take offense to at all so "personal attack" might be a strong word. But it is clearly a tactic meant to get off the original point. I don't know every little detail about their financies, but I know they live in homes worth millions of dollars. That alone is quite enough to form an opinion of their character. Also, if they donated a lot, it would make the press. Why is this so hard for you to understand this? If Green Day believe that the rich should be taxed more, they believe they should pay more to the government. Right? Are you with me so far? So if they believe that they should give more money to the government. Why don't they? This is very straightforward. I agree with you that them giving money to the government would be pointless. The point I am trying to make is that they are hypocrites and make stupid statements. They know as much about politics and our economy as the common house fly. I don't know what you are taking about using my government job to look up Tom's information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 IÇ'm starting to get interested on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anders182 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Uno leaked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 about to listen with an open mind. here goes nothing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 this album is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anders182 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 this album is stupid terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Heard like the first minute of each song, so I can't say for sure, but from what I heard it is basically a bunch of throwaway tracks that may be catchy enough for the ignorant 14 year olds but everyone else will hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 i probably won't be listening to the album as a whole more then a few times, but i enjoy playing along to let yourself go on guitar a lot. just a fun fast simple song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b00bies Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 nothing stands out. what a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I remember you talking about how Jen Delonge sucks at selling houses or something like that. Like Tom made bad investments and how he house had depreciated in value. http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,70951.0.html ^In that thread you boast about looking up Tom Delonge's personal information from ancestry.com. You claim you had his address and home phone number. But of course, you had no urge to call him. But you could if you wanted, just that you didn't want to. No, that would be creepy right? Blink are obsessed with money. Anyone who needs a $7 million dollar house is completely under the spell of money. Their life is controlled by it. You made this statement not too long ago. Where did that figure come from? Remember when you were boasting that Tom's worth of his home had gone down and he was horrible with his money? That he had plenty of opportunity to come outside and meet people and he chose not to. We are his life and blood, we make it so he can afford that $6 million dollar mansion of his. He has a lot of nerve, and I am sick of it. But it isn't just him. It's all celebrities who treat their fans like shit. It's fucked up. You made it again, but with a different figure. \ How much was Tom's house worth, you know the one with a 10 car garage? Was it $6 million or $7 million. You lose count after awhile. Point is, all that money didn't come from Blink. Yes, Oliver what was that magic figure you drew out of nowhere? http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,103719.0.html ^Again, this thread has people referencing the fact you knew how much Tom's house was worth and how much he paid for it. http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,76217.20.html ^Here is another thread where you talk about your new blog post and how Tom's house is only worth 4.2 million. So how do you know this information Oli? Also here's a great thread about you trying to sue a lab for taking your blood and allowing you to drive home. http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,48014.msg1060603.html#msg1060603 and this one about how much you hate strippers. http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,44505.msg1012239.html#msg1012239 and here you get into a fight with an ATM machine.... http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,58098.msg1210309.html#msg1210309 and here you battle Jehova Witnesses. http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,58241.msg1212582.html#msg1212582 but here you save a dog's life, but perhaps you are obsessed with the owner's hot smokin body.... http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,73853.0.html and then you almost died while in a frozen creek.... http://www.blink-182online.com/forums/index.php/topic,59311.msg1228595.html#msg1228595 Those last few threads brought me a smile and just in case you forgot them, I posted them for you oli. Thanks for the memories man. These stories man, are like some kind of wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 1. When and where have I personally attacked you? Have you gone hysterical? I've pointed out your own hypocrisies. You're not off limits you know. 2. Again, you have no clue what they do with their money. You do not know them personally. Stop assuming they only hoard money. 3. Twisting words? What am I twisting? I explained they wouldn't in their right mind give the government private donations because it would be stupid, as you've suggested they do. They believe the government should tax them and the rich more. That doesn't mean they should give their money away. They want to change the system, do you not understand that? Even if they gave every penny they had, it would be a drop in the bucket. It proves nothing but their generosity and in my opinion foolishness. 4. and it's not like you didn't use your government job to look up Tom Delonge's personal information about and how much his mansion was worth either? Yeah, that's kind of psychotic and pretty much damns you in the whole "I'm not obsessed with money" bugok. Face it Oliver, you have no argument, you make up shit, and you are obsessed with money and people who are better off than you. A personal attack is when you are debating something and you make it personal. This is a common tactic to put the person on the defensive and to get off the original topic. You do this as soon as you bring up what I do in my personal life. It is not something I take offense to at all so "personal attack" might be a strong word. But it is clearly a tactic meant to get off the original point. I don't know every little detail about their financies, but I know they live in homes worth millions of dollars. That alone is quite enough to form an opinion of their character. Also, if they donated a lot, it would make the press. Why is this so hard for you to understand this? If Green Day believe that the rich should be taxed more, they believe they should pay more to the government. Right? Are you with me so far? So if they believe that they should give more money to the government. Why don't they? This is very straightforward. I agree with you that them giving money to the government would be pointless. The point I am trying to make is that they are hypocrites and make stupid statements. They know as much about politics and our economy as the common house fly. I don't know what you are taking about using my government job to look up Tom's information. Personal attacks are not when you bring up hypocrisies in somebody's logic. If I said you waste money buying shit you don't need (hypothetically), but you pointed out I post a new vinyl record that I spent however much money on, that isn't a personal attack is it? To me, a personal attack is if I said you had a small penis or your brother was a cow-fucker. You dig? Again, we're not discussing their character, we're discussing their claim that they believe the rich should be taxed more. They never said "I think I should pay more taxes....", they said the rich should, and yes that does include them. So for them to pay the government what they think they owe doesn't equate to their claim that the rich should pay more. As i've stated before, it's probably just a drop in the bucket if they were to say pay a million more a year. Sure, a million can go a long way, but if it goes to say producing bombs, whatever, they really don't know. It's just not a wise thing to give the government your money and hope it goes to the right place (yes, I understand that raising taxes is pretty much the same, but given that everybody who is in their tax bracket does this, it will make a difference where it counts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackelford Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 So the songs we've heard since Oh Love were the best? ......damn....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Kyle, I am not quite getting your point with posting all of that. But good research and good memories. Thanks. I did look up Tom's info on ancestry. However, him selling his house and the price of the house was pretty much common knowledge. It was also common knowledge that Jen fixed up houses and because of the economy he took a loss on it. Article on Tom's house http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/blink-182s-tom-delonge-lists-his-house-in-rancho-santa-fe-ca-for-625m-or-6295m-depending-upon-whom-you-ask/ Tom's house showing price he paid: $5.5 million on April 1, 2005 and price he sold it for $4.9 on April 9, 2011. Plus it was fixed up. So he took about a million dollar loss I imagine. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/18433-Via-Candela-Rancho-Santa-Fe-CA-92091/54904658_zpid/ That took me 2 seconds to find all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Kyle, that is fine on the label you give a personal attack; I still think it is not a good debate tactic. I disagree on GD thing. They think the rich should pay more taxes. They are rich. They think they should pay more taxes. So why don't they? Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to clutter this with offtopic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 This is crazy, guys. This thread is titled "Green Day begin recording new album", and what we got in this page is another pointless boring discussion of the type "what-you-said-and-what-yousay" about Thomas Matthew DeLonge. I'm disappointed. I was expecting some wild rage against the new Green Day record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Oh don't worry I'm sure Ghent and others will be soon to flood this thread with that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Can't wait!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Sorry. Lets get back on topic. Not many opinions yet. A few people don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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