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Because you have your head up their ass?

Uh, no.

 

Let's take this away from blink for a second, and to bands/artists I am not a major fan of...

 

KISS - The guys are in everything! They have dolls, games, assortment of things, and are in ads. Hell they even have a couple movies around them! Sell outs? Yes they are indeed sell outs. In fact they are worse than blink-182. Do I think they are greedy? No because they know how to work the game, and they working it.

 

Beatles - See KISS

 

Metallica - Same as the Beatles, and KISS, but they have been known to fuck over their fans. Napster anyone? The fact that they take fans to court because they download their music illegally? Greedy? No because they have the right to act the way they do. Assholes? Yes, you can bet that they are assholes.

 

I could go on, and on, but you should get the point.

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Also, I want to say that I have the same views as darkarrow. I would prefer a world without money, or more of an equal playing ground, but sadly that isn't the case. This is a society built by mankind, and humans have been known to be naturally greedy (all classes not just the rich). So I live in the real world, and accept the way things are.

 

I will come out of the so called "closet", and say this though. I am a liberal who thinks the rich should pay more taxes than the poor, BUT I do not have any issue with the fact that people like Tom DeLonge, and Travis Barker make a load more than me. They earned their way to the top unlike other celebrities...

 

Kim Kardashian, and Paris Hilton anyone?

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fuck blink-182. fuck them greedy fucks for making so much money yet giving so much money to charities (Tom - keep a breast, Travis - burn victims hospital)


why can't they just do that with a normal salary?


fuck them for making so many jobs for people. i mean they don't really need people to help them out with their clothing companies. they don't need a touring crew.


greedy fucks


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I'm 23 years old and I have a 4 year old son and a wife.  I know what I'm talking about.  I don't even make 5k a year.  Me and my wife barely scrape by, but what extra we do have, we give to people who need it even more then I do.  The only reason I can get online at all is because I'm currently in school.  I live without internet, smart phones, cable, or a home phone.  I live with my basic necesities and that is about it.  I cannot afford more.

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Couldn't you just say....................."Yes Oliver I agree that Blink are Greedy, but so are you".

 

This is exactly why rich people aren't the problem, nor is Tom DeLonge, nor is any millionaire or superstar. The reason is apathy and hypocrisy. The reason is attitude. Nobody  on God's green earth gains a THING, unless action is being made. You have a personal vendetta to make a theoretical point about the rich and the poor, but yet you are more or less doing the same thing as someone richer or poorer. 

 

You think the problem is that nobody is saying the above quote. No, the problem is everybody is saying that quote.. and then following that, not doing anything about it. Tom Delonge could say that quote, the president could say that quote, Donald Trump could say that quote, the bum down the street can. But you get no moral rectification by being a crusader on an internet forum about blink, it gets nothing done. 

 

So no, you don't get a free pass on moral guilt just because you can point to people that are richer than you that are doing the same thing. There is no difference between Tom and you. You both live within the means you are comfortable with, give back a little, but not a lot. Spend within your comfortable means, spend within your income bracket. It's all relative, and there is absolutely no difference. You don't have a smartphone, Tom doesn't have a private jet. You give money to charity sometimes (do you even? hell if I know), Tom Delonge has keep-a-breast. You think Tom spends too much, Tom thinks Donald Trump spends too much. There is no difference. And the important part is - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLINK-182. 

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Another point that I think some people are missing (unless I haven't read it in past threads) is the fact that they have family to support. They got a wife (Except Travis), and they have kids to take care of. Tom has two, Mark has one, and I don't know exactly how many Travis has (I think two that he fathered, and one when he was married?). Kids cost a lot, and they probably want to make sure that their kids have the best childhood (better one than they think they had). Plus they probably want to to pass their wealth on to the kids so the kids can be set when they grow up.


 


Your argument or anger towards blink would be more valid (to me) if the guys were still single, and didn't hold responsibility towards their families.


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Oliver thinks he has an answer for everything in the end. Its exactly what was said above about it all being relative  The blink guys are in a complete different money bracket then us, therefore they live between the lines of their bracket as we do with ours. They don't owe us anything, just like we didn't have to buy any of their albums, t-shirts and merch, and never had to buy concert tickets. The fans all willingly did that, because the product they put out ( good relateable music ), struck a chord with millions of people, therefore making them rich. They gave up alot and took a huge chance with blink, and it worked with a little luck of course. They don't go around doing interviews with 500k worth of watches and "bling" on. As far as my research goes, none of them have ever bought an absurd costing car, as Tom drives a 6 series BMW, not a driveway full of lambos they drive once a year. So please, its an obvious case of Oliver thinking that they owe him something or should live by his means, even though when you break down what he says its so hypocritical its redic. 


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The funniest part is Oliver doesn't even know what they do with their money. It's like because they don't post on Facebook that they donated a large amount of money to charity last week that that means there's no chance it's ever happened.


 


And it's pretty surprising that they don't own Ferrari's or anything, I sure as hell would lol


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To be honest the longer I think about it the more I think that blink is actually pretty humble. Mark usually just wears a black t shirt these days for promotion and things. Tom has arguably spent more then the rest but he sunk a majority of it into AvA which I think everyone would agree has not been nearly as successful as he intended or assumed it would be. Travis is really the one who I would think spends the most. But he is also worth more then either Tom or Mark.

For celebrities they don't really seem to spend much in my opinion. The fact that they actually just progress their sound instead of trying to rewrite their earlier albums(ala green day, no offense). It seems to me that they respect the legacy they have made with this band. They seem to understand the connection we have to the music. Not many musicians can do that these days.

I honestly don't see them spending much in excess, at least not from what I follow, basically just marks twitter and these forums.

I don't have any problem with people like them spending their money. They give someone like me hope. That is something no amount of money could ever do.

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Of all celebs Blink really aren't that bad to me. They keep to themselves, aren't decked out in shitty gold jewelry, don't buy insane things that make the news, and still are down to earth. I can't say blink are guilty of shit when Adam Levine is everywhere, Lil Wayne still makes whatever it is he makes, and the Kardashians are still around.


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I am where I am in life because of my own decisions.  I do not blame the rich for me being poor.  I was a dumb teenager and I am working my way back from it.  Yes, I do get food stamps, no I do not have any monetary aid from anyone other then my wife.  We live in a shitty one bedroom apartment in a shitty part of town, but this is the best I can do right now. I'm working on it.

 

The fact that you don't think that people live on less then 10k a year proves to me that you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm not exactly personally attacking you, I use personal comments to show my point, but you avoid my point.

My point is that you don't have the moral ground to stand on to make such claims, nor do you personally know how you would react if you were in blink's situation.  Publishing a book and being world-wide known musicians are two completely different things on completely different levels.

I do not know how I would react in either their situation, or your situation.

 

 

Also since you once again ignored this I'm posting it a third time:

 

 

"I also believe that people should be supported by their neighbors and community to the point where the entire community is able to give their money away to other communities who need it more."

 

 

Yeah, you partially are where you are because of your own decisions. But not totally. The middle class is shrinking, the rich are getting richer and the poor are poorer. Those are FACTS. Facts that have nothing to do with people screwing up in life.

 

You can't live on $10K a year. It is not possible. You are getting assistance. Which is okay. I am willing to help pay for people who are turning their lives around.

 

Thats nice that you believe people should be supported by their neighbors. Your point is?.......

 

 

I still think it is so hilarious that you can call me out as being greedy but still can't admit Blink are.

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1)making albums costs money

2)production/distribution costs money

3)touring costs money

4)If they wanted a shit ton of money, they could easily write an album just like enema that would sell really well, and most likely get loads of radio play.

5)Tom wants to give away AvA music for free. (and did)

 

 

Famous people are rich, they will almost all of the time remain far more wealthy than the average joe till the day they die. they worked hard to gain fame, and yes money came with it. a guy who struggled to finish high school started a band to make music he likes. he's not willow smith, blink wasnt started from wealth. making music is their job. jobs are there to earn money

 

So you agree that Blink is a business. Good! Tom wanted AVA to be the biggest band in the world. He wanted to make a shit ton of money off it. Tons of people who are broke work very hard. How dare you say that people who don't have money don't work hard.

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fuck blink-182. fuck them greedy fucks for making so much money yet giving so much money to charities (Tom - keep a breast, Travis - burn victims hospital)

why can't they just do that with a normal salary?

fuck them for making so many jobs for people. i mean they don't really need people to help them out with their clothing companies. they don't need a touring crew.

greedy fucks

 

Mocking a post without disproving it means you have no argument.

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This is exactly why rich people aren't the problem, nor is Tom DeLonge, nor is any millionaire or superstar. The reason is apathy and hypocrisy. The reason is attitude. Nobody  on God's green earth gains a THING, unless action is being made. You have a personal vendetta to make a theoretical point about the rich and the poor, but yet you are more or less doing the same thing as someone richer or poorer. 

 

You think the problem is that nobody is saying the above quote. No, the problem is everybody is saying that quote.. and then following that, not doing anything about it. Tom Delonge could say that quote, the president could say that quote, Donald Trump could say that quote, the bum down the street can. But you get no moral rectification by being a crusader on an internet forum about blink, it gets nothing done. 

 

So no, you don't get a free pass on moral guilt just because you can point to people that are richer than you that are doing the same thing. There is no difference between Tom and you. You both live within the means you are comfortable with, give back a little, but not a lot. Spend within your comfortable means, spend within your income bracket. It's all relative, and there is absolutely no difference. You don't have a smartphone, Tom doesn't have a private jet. You give money to charity sometimes (do you even? hell if I know), Tom Delonge has keep-a-breast. You think Tom spends too much, Tom thinks Donald Trump spends too much. There is no difference. And the important part is - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLINK-182. 

 

 

Victor, do you even read what I write? Obviously not. I have said MANY  TIMES that I have no problem with people making money. For example: Blink selling tickets at a reasonable price to their shows and making $150K isn't greed. Tom Delonge charging a fan $500 to meet him is!!! Having a signature guitar is, having VIP seats is!

 

Do you see the difference? :<img src=:'>? :<img src=:'>???

 

I am  different from the second example because while I do make money just like Tom I don't do ridiculous things for money I don't need. I have never once in my life set out to exploit a situation I am in for money NEVER, and I've had the opportunity. I get my published book for $2.50 and sell it for exactly that even thought I could easily seel it for $10 or $12. Why don't I? Because I don't screw people out of money I don't need.

 

See the difference yet? :<img src=:'>???

 

 

Yeah, part of the reason where people are in life is because of their decisions. But like I said it is a FACT that the middle class is shrinking. That has NOTHING to do with people not working hard.

 

I find it really sad that you are apparently a compassionate person yet you continue to make up bullshit excuses as to why it is ok for someone to own a $5 million home while someone else is dying of hunger. You have no compassion for humans as far as I can tell.

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Oliver thinks he has an answer for everything in the end. Its exactly what was said above about it all being relative  The blink guys are in a complete different money bracket then us, therefore they live between the lines of their bracket as we do with ours. They don't owe us anything, just like we didn't have to buy any of their albums, t-shirts and merch, and never had to buy concert tickets. The fans all willingly did that, because the product they put out ( good relateable music ), struck a chord with millions of people, therefore making them rich. They gave up alot and took a huge chance with blink, and it worked with a little luck of course. They don't go around doing interviews with 500k worth of watches and "bling" on. As far as my research goes, none of them have ever bought an absurd costing car, as Tom drives a 6 series BMW, not a driveway full of lambos they drive once a year. So please, its an obvious case of Oliver thinking that they owe him something or should live by his means, even though when you break down what he says its so hypocritical its redic. 

 

 

What chance did they actually take in life? There are people who are willing to take a bullet or a bomb for this country for very little pay. You need a bit of perspective in your life......

 

I guess you've never seen Travis on cribs where he had a $10K stove in his house....or the car episode where he bought a $500K car. How about Tom smashing a perfectly good $2K guitar? How about Blink blowing $500K on the Rock Show video? How about Tom owning a $5 million house? How about Tom saying the first thing he bought with his Blink money was a $60K car?

 

Travis has millions of dollars worth of cars.

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