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Oliver I can't be bothered to argue with you any more, whatever I say you will pull out your arse some far-fetched statistic to disagree, it's mentally exhausting disagreeing with you so much.

 

 

LOL......okay.

 

But it isn't far fetched. I think I explained the difference between Greed and Ambition quite well.

 

Your retort.....

 

 

 

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Totally disagree with that. I've seen that movie actually and it's about some Greedy CEO and his dog eat dog view on corporate america. That type of lifestyle gets you nowhere.

 

Amibition and Greed and two totally different things. For example; If I decide that I am going to be the best in whatever I do in life, that isn't greed. That is ambition and drive. I agree that some good things have been accomplished by someone's desire to be very rich; but it doesn't have to be that way; and it shouldn't be that way.

 

If you are doing things in order to be rich; you are doing them for the wrong reasons. Statics have shown that people who get into professions because of the money are miserable people. Doctor's don't get into their profession because of the money, they get into them because they love their jobs. Anyone trying to be a doctor because of money will end of failing and being a shitty doctor.

 

blink-182 want to be the best band they can be: ambition

each member wants to be the best father, husband they can be, give their family the best life they can have (who doesn't want this?): ambition

without the profit from blink, none of this can be possible

being in a succesful money making band was what most bands set out to be

if there's no money, there's less ambition, because you're too busy working as a pizza delivery guy instead of focusing on the music.

 

enema blew up, they got a huge record deal, it allowed them to write more awesome music

if none of this would have happened, what do you think woul'dve happened?

would they have continued writing hits?

would they have ended the band seeking out other ventures?

then you wouldn't be here bitching about how they are greedy

 

you talk about how foo fighters/dave grohl doesn't charge vip blablabla

yet he makes more money.

apparently (via google search) dave grohl makes 225 million, travis makes 85 million

 

so why aren't you in a foo fighters forum complaining over there?

better yet, go all out and go to a U2 forum.

sure Bono is a humanitarian this and that, but does he really need all that money? if anyone can stop poverty it would be that guy. so why hasn't he?

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its been said many times here that "just because it is that way doesnt mean it should be". ok sure, what the hell is constant whining about it on a forum gunna do about it, id happily have a debate about greed in general but the fact that olivers forcing it onto blink when there are far far more greedy people in the world and blink, as many people have proved (imo), arent that greedy in the first place. 


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blink-182 want to be the best band they can be: ambition

each member wants to be the best father, husband they can be, give their family the best life they can have (who doesn't want this?): ambition

without the profit from blink, none of this can be possible

being in a succesful money making band was what most bands set out to be

if there's no money, there's less ambition, because you're too busy working as a pizza delivery guy instead of focusing on the music.

 

enema blew up, they got a huge record deal, it allowed them to write more awesome music

if none of this would have happened, what do you think woul'dve happened?

would they have continued writing hits?

would they have ended the band seeking out other ventures?

then you wouldn't be here bitching about how they are greedy

 

you talk about how foo fighters/dave grohl doesn't charge vip blablabla

yet he makes more money.

apparently (via google search) dave grohl makes 225 million, travis makes 85 million

 

so why aren't you in a foo fighters forum complaining over there?

better yet, go all out and go to a U2 forum.

sure Bono is a humanitarian this and that, but does he really need all that money? if anyone can stop poverty it would be that guy. so why hasn't he?

 

 

First off, you don't need to have millions of dollars to have a family. You don't even need to have hundreds of thousands, and darkarrow proves you don't even need $10,000.

 

So the idea that you need millions of dollars to run a band and make a living is nonsense.

 

When Blink blew up they should have said "Damn we are making good money here"................."We don't need to exploit this by having.....

 

Tom Delonge Signature guitar

Mark Hoppus Signature Bass

Travis Barker signature:Sticks, Cymbals, Drumset.

Getting paid by Fender to use their guitars.

Getting paid by OCDP to use their drums.

Wearing Hurley Shirts for Money (what kind of tools whore themselves out like that?)

Starting our own clothing company and wearing  shirts to make even more money

Selling their songs to Kids Bop

Selling $250 VIP seats

Selling $350 toy bunnies

$500 Tom Delonge meet and Greet

Crappy Dogs Eating Dogs bundle packages

Selling a $3 shirts made in Japan for $40

 

 

This is all stuff that was totally unnecessary. This is all stuff that has abosofuckinglutely NOTHING to do with amibtion or drive. They could have been rich, had a big band without any of that shit.

 

 

But they are Greedy. Its been established. Lets move on now.

 

 

Dave Grohl is greedy too, but at least he doesn't exploit situations.

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Totally disagree with that. I've seen that movie actually and it's about some Greedy CEO and his dog eat dog view on corporate america. That type of lifestyle gets you nowhere.

 

Amibition and Greed and two totally different things. For example; If I decide that I am going to be the best in whatever I do in life, that isn't greed. That is ambition and drive. I agree that some good things have been accomplished by someone's desire to be very rich; but it doesn't have to be that way; and it shouldn't be that way.

 

If you are doing things in order to be rich; you are doing them for the wrong reasons. Statics have shown that people who get into professions because of the money are miserable people. Doctor's don't get into their profession because of the money, they get into them because they love their jobs. Anyone trying to be a doctor because of money will end of failing and being a shitty doctor.

yet doctors make big paychecks don't they? you don't hear doctors say "i do this to save lives and not the money" beacuse that's not true or else they wouldn't take those big paychecks. if so, there would be less deaths from sicknesses because people would be able to afford to pay for the help they need.

why are doctors accepting such big pay if "this is what they love to do"

this specifically reminded me of a movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Q

would these doctors not be considered greedy?

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 Again, you are making this argument about me. You are deflecting. Why? Can you please address your hypocrisy in both saying I am like Blink and I am unlike Blink depending on what suits you?

 

As for me, I don't have a lot of extra money or time. In fact if I got married or ever had kids I'd be living hand to mouth. I work 12 hour days and commute an hour each way. I serve on my local homeowners association board. I participate in Rev War reenactments. I have a house to maintain and a girlfriend that lives 2 hours away. I have very little time.Yet I am writing off about $1,200 in donations this year. I am not exactly sure what you mean by "man up".

 

 

This argument is about you because nothing else matters right now. I don't want to argue this anymore. You are completely missing my point. I don't care what blink is, it doesn't matter. You are arguing a systemic problem about society and the construction of our economy. This has nothing to do with blink-182. 90% of every argument I've ever made is that this is not specifically or uniquely a blink-182 issue so I don't want to, or don't care to talk about it here. I worry about the state of the world as much as the next guy, but this is not the time and the place. I am making this about you because if you are so pissed about these issues, go do something about it. Bitching about it here is useless, inconsequential. I can literally draw up like a dozen different analogies I've made over the years. I've run dry. Blaming blink-182 for the problems with wealth inequality is like blaming the waiter for the overpriced food of a restaurant. STOP. Blink-182, like you and me, are part of the system that perpetuates the status quo behaviour, which is to contribute to an economy that feeds money the wrong way. I am not saying x or y or whoever the hell is greedy. It's not about that. It's either everybody's fault or it's nobody's fault. 

 

This is like the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Or poverty in Africa. Or global warming. Blaming blink-182 for spending money the way capitalism and America is fundamentally structured is like blaming blink-182 for global warming because they fly on airplanes more than the average person. Can I make this any more clear? I'm actually begging you Oliver. Put down your defense mechanisms. Get off your high horse. Lay down your biases. LISTEN. 

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Oliver: "will never in my right mind pay $350 for a piece of plastic."

 

pays $500 fot it :<img src=:'>

 

Yeah, true whose thare.


He showed me the bunny. It is the real deal. Bigger than I remember. Signed and all. He wouldn't let me hold it or take pics......lol.

$500 and he isn't letting up from that. But when I said I would have to resell it, he change his opinion. "You can do whatever you want with it". So that is fair. I am most likely going to buy it. I'd be a fool not to.

He is apparently superstitious and said he needs it out of his house because of the "bad connections" it has to his estranged daughter and he said it wouldn't be right for him to sell it online (for whatever reason).

But he won't budge from $500, and honestly, I don't blame him considering it is worth perhaps $1000 if you find the right buyer.

 

you said it yourself, a signed big bunny is worth $1,000

so how can a non-signed one NOT be worth its original price?

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Yeah, if I had known they were going to be worth so much, I'd have max'd the credit card and bought as many as I could and then sold them off.

 

 

if any regular person unbeknownst to anything in this thread, the first impression of this exact quote would be "what a greedy sob"

 

you, dear madam, are a greedy mofo

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Still not a single person can admit Blink 182 is greedy. It is hilarious.

 

Uh sir, I did say I thought you were both greedy. To clarify, I meant Blink-182, as well as you, and then me.

 

And as to my other post, I was just posting where holes in your argument could come into play.

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