tom18222 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Mark sings one song on the whole EP. As much as Tom is a douche, he is a songwriting machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Don't be a narcissistic asshole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran.182 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yeah, and as much as I love the EP, I miss Mark's voice and lyrics... (there's no proof of that, but I'd say at least since Neighborhoods Mark and Tom end up singing exactly what they wrote. Plus, it's not hard to recognize the difference in their styles.) If things aren't going to change, +44 needs to come back for a record after the next blink one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic McMoose Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I dont think its a matter of tom forcing marks ideas out, i just think he has less, so a +44 album might be pushing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinkplanet Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Maybe it's not about "ideas", maybe Mark is just totally ok with Tom singing more than him. We don't know how they work in the studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Mark clearly has writers block. He even admitted that Tom just writes songs and thinks they are good; while Mark questions everything. Mark hasn't written much for Blink 182 since TOYPAJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I prefer Tom's writing style now, it was all good when it was simple with Mark but now Tom throws loads of cool ideas/riffs and licks in.I find Mark a bit bland in comparison, I mean even on this EP Dogs Eating Dogs is pretty much straight up powerchords, yes there is a small lead part in the background but it's not very distinguisable.Generally though, his lyrics are a LOT better than Toms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I prefer Tom's writing style now, it was all good when it was simple with Mark but now Tom throws loads of cool ideas/riffs and licks in.I find Mark a bit bland in comparison, I mean even on this EP Dogs Eating Dogs is pretty much straight up powerchords, yes there is a small lead part in the background but it's not very distinguisable.Generally though, his lyrics are a LOT better than Toms. But Blink is here because of power chords. Their sold 10 million albums full of power chords. I don't mind the direction they've gone in, but I don't think "power chords" are a bad thing. When Mark gets personal with his lyrics, he writes amazing stuff. Man Overboard and Hearts All Gone are genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nick Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I agree with Oliver, and I dont think Tom throws in any cool riffs anymore really. Riffs like WMAA, Dammit, Wendy Clear, even Obvious are better than these now songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy030 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Funny u bring up WMAA and Dammit, didn't Mark actually write both of those intros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nick Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Funny u bring up WMAA and Dammit, didn't Mark actually write both of those intros? I know he wrote Dammit, I just mean thats what I miss most from Blink. But I'm sure their new music will grow on me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 But Blink is here because of power chords. Their sold 10 million albums full of power chords. I don't mind the direction they've gone in, but I don't think "power chords" are a bad thing. When Mark gets personal with his lyrics, he writes amazing stuff. Man Overboard and Hearts All Gone are genius. Blink have always used power chords and always will, it’s just what modern rock/alternative bands do. However, they have always used a lot of lead parts as well even in the simple days of Dude Ranch/Enema and TOYPAJ. When you think about it those albums are littered with multiple guitar tracks with both power chords and lead riffs. The point I was making about Mark’s latest songs is there all very chord based and not particularly well layered (Hearts All Gone, Kaleidoscope and Dogs Eating Dogs are the ones that instantly come to mind) are pretty much chords with minimal lead guitar parts which I feel makes the songs sound a bit bland at times.Tom’s songs have a lot more invention and just seem to have a lot more depth musically to them these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran.182 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I prefer Tom's writing style now, it was all good when it was simple with Mark but now Tom throws loads of cool ideas/riffs and licks in.I find Mark a bit bland in comparison, I mean even on this EP Dogs Eating Dogs is pretty much straight up powerchords, yes there is a small lead part in the background but it's not very distinguisable.Generally though, his lyrics are a LOT better than Toms. I agree. I think they have opposite strenghts, actually. Mark is better lyrically (amazing on When Your Heart Stops Beating, imo) and Tom is better musically (particularly since the self-titled). And Oliver is right. There was some interview where Mark talked about his lack of self esteem regarding what we writes and about being extremely self-conscious. Wonder what's the cause of that, if there's any... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bastard Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Mark clearly has writers block. He even admitted that Tom just writes songs and thinks they are good; while Mark questions everything. Mark hasn't written much for Blink 182 since TOYPAJ. Must resist, Mu-uh-uh-uh-uh-ust resist... I'm resisting!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 eh, Tom sang more than Mark on Self Titled than he did on Neighborhoods. He's always had the larger presence, it just fluxuates how much more that presence is from album to album. But hey if Tom writing more than Mark means more blink music sooner (like with Dog Eating Dogs) than I'm A-OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedge00 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I just don't understand why they couldn't give a verse or two to Mark in WIWY/Disaster/BD/PLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck182 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Mark clearly has writers block. He even admitted that Tom just writes songs and thinks they are good; while Mark questions everything. Mark hasn't written much for Blink 182 since TOYPAJ. Yep, that's huge difference between them. Tom takes every song idea he has and runs with it until it's a song, Mark doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojangles Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I kind of always felt the whole dual vocals on Neighborhoods was forced. I felt like they just thought people wanted that. Look at the preview records they would have some dual vocals most of the songs either just Mark or Tom. Also i look at Tom being the main vocalist and Mark as the spokesman for the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Eight Two Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I remember reading somewhere in an interview that Mark sometimes doubts his ideas and that's why it takes him so long to write a song, whereas Tom can just write and let it be. I think a producer would definitely give Mark some confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas D. Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 It's quite dramatic to say Tom has taken over. Mark's good at writing songs, and without him this EP would've sounded like ava. He might not sing a lot anymore, but his influence is surely needed for Blink. Tom can write good lyrics if he wants to, I think PLG proves that. Either way, I like that they're writing more mature songs because it's easier to relate to now. Thank god they don't have a "Fuck Time" song like that other crappier band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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