Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Simple question. I think The Adventure was the last truly great guitar riff that he has written.The intro to Natives was good, but it was just a variation of Young London and M+Ms, so it wasn't that fresh. Even If She Falls was pretty good but not quite as unique as his older stuff. Dogs Eating Dogs had no standout guitar riffs (good EP with great lyrics, but the guitar was pretty standard for Tom). Examples of his awesome riffs would be What's My Age Again?, Adam's Song, Anthem Part 2, Dumpweed, M+Ms, etc.Simple but very awesome sounding riffs. Also, in before "OMG people are so negative and criticize Blink too much here!". I'm just curious if other people feel the same way. Quote
Ghent Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'm sure he can still write them. What has changed is that he doesn't like writing them anymore. Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 I'm sure he can still write them. What has changed is that he doesn't like writing them anymore. That doesn't make much sense. Why would he not like writing them anymore; why would he hate being an insanely popular and successful musician making boatloads of money? I think it's a matter of running out of material. He has his own style, he pumped out tons of great tunes, and now he's running out of new ideas; happens to all musicians. It's painfully obvious when he re-uses the same riff 3 or 4 times in different songs. Quote
Ghent Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 He feels like he is above "simple" poppy riffs now because he is an "artist" or whatever. I would be shocked if he couldn't churn out a quality enema style riff in a couple hours if he wanted to. The thing is he would feel the need to ruin it with synth and delay and what not so you would barely even notice the riff. Quote
Dancing_with_myself Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 His style of playing has matured so I guess he doesn't want to kick out poppy riffs that might ruin his artsy image, I'm sure Mark would love it if he went back to that style though. Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 He feels like he is above "simple" poppy riffs now because he is an "artist" or whatever. I would be shocked if he couldn't churn out a quality enema style riff in a couple hours if he wanted to. The thing is he would feel the need to ruin it with synth and delay and what not so you would barely even notice the riff. His "simple" poppy riffs were more complicated than throwing together a few generic power chords and calling it a day. Agreed about the synth and delay part. He now plays like a simple, more watered-down version of The Edge from U2 in some songs (like the Disaster intro). Quote
thongrider Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 What I always found great about those songs were that they were so simple and I reckognized them from somewhere yet they were so brilliant and there was such great song to accompany them, but I'm sure something similar had been written before and will yet get written again, just not by Tom Delonge, what sucks about being a musician, especially someone who writes great simplistic stuff you will have to rip yourself off and/or run out of ideas. I also agree with Ghent that it also has something to do with not being into that style of music or songwriting anymore. Quote
radioactive tomdog Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 yeah, i'd agree that his style is now watered down U2. i think it's annoying how he'll strum one power chord and let it ring through an entire verse so that he doesnt have to play and sing at the same time. Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 His style of playing has matured so I guess he doesn't want to kick out poppy riffs that might ruin his artsy image, I'm sure Mark would love it if he went back to that style though. Can you provide me some examples of how his playing has "matured"? Taking simple power chords for Secret Crowds and then re-using them for Snake Charmer is considered mature? Or slightly tweaking a riff that he has used twice in the past (Natives from Young London from M+Ms)? Those are just a couple examples that come to mind, I'm sure there are many more. But I'd love to hear some examples of his mature stuff that you mentioned... Quote
Ghent Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'd be curious what blink would come up with if they were forced to write a song that would fit directly onto Enema.It would probably be better than anything they've released since untitled honestly 1 Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 I'd be curious what blink would come up with if they were forced to write a song that would fit directly onto Enema.It would probably be better than anything they've released since untitled honestly I think Even If She Falls fits right into TOYPAJ, which was similar to Enema, and most people seemed to like it the most off Neighborhoods lol. Quote
High Value Man Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I think it is all of the above......I think he is kind of running out of stuff and I think his songwriting style has changed so much that riffs are no longer what he is focused on. Even in Blink his songwriting style is still very much AVA sounding. The days of his clean/distorted riffs and power chords is long gone. People change styles. Freddie Mercury from Queen use to write the most amazing piano songs in the 70's. In the 80's he never used piano anymore and cut a lot of the old piano songs out of the live act. When he would sit it a piano during a live show he would act like he didn't want to play it. People change musically. What I can never understand is, why most of the time they change for the worst. Quote
thongrider Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I think it is all of the above......I think he is kind of running out of stuff and I think his songwriting style has changed so much that riffs are no longer what he is focused on. Even in Blink his songwriting style is still very much AVA sounding. The days of his clean/distorted riffs and power chords is long gone. People change styles. Freddie Mercury from Queen use to write the most amazing piano songs in the 70's. In the 80's he never used piano anymore and cut a lot of the old piano songs out of the live act. When he would sit it a piano during a live show he would act like he didn't want to play it. People change musically. What I can never understand is, why most of the time they change for the worst. WHen you're young you have to world up your ass you have lots to bring into it lots of feelings that needs expression, once these expressions and feelings reach sucess you lose grip of both the feelings, the expression and the whole picture, you might start to think you are larger than life you might think that changing your style or "maturing" will change the fact that you cannot keep up with the talent of your youthful self who was a fucking asshole and you just can't stand that that jerkoff was more talented and even more sucessful than you. Talent probably never leaves a person who inhabits(?) them, but the feelings to express them do. Quote
plusavablinker Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I think they need to spend more time writing the songs. I love the dogs eating dogs ep and disaster is my favourite song of it. But I miss the old guitar sound of tom. I would be happy with his 2003-2004 sound. Quote
theedge00 Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 yeah the riff from WW is really catchy Quote
quiksilver199 Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I think the guitar in the chorus of Sirens is pretty sweet as well at 1:41 Quote
.Nick Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I think the guitar in the chorus of Sirens is pretty sweet as well at 1:41 When its played like that, yeah. But that hardly sounds how the actual song does. Quote
Low Value Boy Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I've always though the lead riff in the chorus of the record version of Sirens sounds sweet, one of my fav AVA songs. Quote
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