Jump to content
 
Clar-ke has herpes

The Tom Delonge Meltdown Watch Thread (Meltdown Inactive)

Recommended Posts

20 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

even as a fan of early AND later AVA I still don't think you can. WYHSB blows AVA out of the water imo, and I love AVA.

Hmm, I dunno.  I put together a solid AaA playlist couple years ago that I listen to regularly that if it were a single album, I'd have loved it and listened to the shit out of it.  Trying to imagine this album coming out in 2006 is tough, but if it had come out, I think it definitely would have given WYHSB a run for it's money.

This is that playlist by the way, literally have it saved as "A Good Angels and Airwaves Album":
1. Call To Arms
2. Epic Holiday
3. It Hurts
4. Sirens
5. Chasing Shadows
6. The Wolfpack
7. The Adventure
8. Saturday Love
9. A Little's Enough
10. Rite of Spring
11. Start the Machine
12. Do It for Me Now (Acoustic)
13. Anomaly
14. Heaven

Individually there definitely isn't a single Angels and Airwaves album that is as thoroughly as good as WYHSB is from start to end.  But I would argue that picking from the best the band had to offer you could make an album that arguably can measure up to that album. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
49 minutes ago, M!ke said:

Hmm, I dunno.  I put together a solid AaA playlist couple years ago that I listen to regularly that if it were a single album, I'd have loved it and listened to the shit out of it.  Trying to imagine this album coming out in 2006 is tough, but if it had come out, I think it definitely would have given WYHSB a run for it's money.

This is that playlist by the way, literally have it saved as "A Good Angels and Airwaves Album":
1. Call To Arms
2. Epic Holiday
3. It Hurts
4. Sirens
5. Chasing Shadows
6. The Wolfpack
7. The Adventure
8. Saturday Love
9. A Little's Enough
10. Rite of Spring
11. Start the Machine
12. Do It for Me Now (Acoustic)
13. Anomaly
14. Heaven

Individually there definitely isn't a single Angels and Airwaves album that is as thoroughly as good as WYHSB is from start to end.  But I would argue that picking from the best the band had to offer you could make an album that arguably can measure up to that album. 

AVA definitely have enough good songs for an album but the problem I feel on majority of their best songs, the songs are still way way too long. I feel +44 is consistent from start to finish. Not one song has a part where I hate it or find it too repetitive. The Adventure is so damn good and arguably the best thing Tom has done until up to the 2nd chorus. After that 2nd chorus, it just gets so repetitive and doesn't go anywhere for me. I feel the same about Valkyrie Missile and Do It For Me Now.

Start the Machine is the only one I feel that is perfect on everything. Lyrics, structure and length. Oh and Sirens is a pretty fucking good song throughout too. If songs like Valkyrie Missile, Do It For Me Now, The Adventure and The War were 3-4 minutes long, rather than 5-6, then I'd call them as good as +44. With the Dream Walker songs, they started to become 3-4 minutes long and I enjoyed them more for it. Mercenaries is so damn good except for the lyrics, but cause they're not cringe lyrics like California blink, I can deal with it.

Don't get me wrong, there are 5-6 minute songs that I love, hell even I've written and recorded a 5-6 minute song. Blink's ILWY is perfect for me. 30 Seconds to Mars have done great long songs. Green Day have pulled it off, although I couldn't use them as examples, cause their long ass songs sound more like medleys than actual full songs. But for AVA, I don't think it worked as well. As they recorded more albums, I think they improved on some aspects but regressed on others. Consistency is a huge problem for them whereas I feel +44 was just so damn perfect on every song. I like to think of WYHSB as the ending of the perfect blink trilogy. Started off with BCR, then the smiley face album but finishes with WYHSB.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, M!ke said:

Hmm, I dunno.  I put together a solid AaA playlist couple years ago that I listen to regularly that if it were a single album, I'd have loved it and listened to the shit out of it.  Trying to imagine this album coming out in 2006 is tough, but if it had come out, I think it definitely would have given WYHSB a run for it's money.

 This is that playlist by the way, literally have it saved as "A Good Angels and Airwaves Album":
1. Call To Arms
2. Epic Holiday
3. It Hurts
4. Sirens
5. Chasing Shadows
6. The Wolfpack
7. The Adventure
8. Saturday Love
9. A Little's Enough
10. Rite of Spring
11. Start the Machine
12. Do It for Me Now (Acoustic)
13. Anomaly
14. Heaven

Individually there definitely isn't a single Angels and Airwaves album that is as thoroughly as good as WYHSB is from start to end.  But I would argue that picking from the best the band had to offer you could make an album that arguably can measure up to that album. 

Oh I think AVA has a lot of great songs that could have made up a really good album, but I'll admit I'm a bit biased here, WYHSB is my second favorite album in the entire blink-related discography, only behind blink's untitled album. I'm still a big AVA fan, but I love WYHSB so much, I don't think any combination of AVA songs could top it for me. Though it could still make for a damn good album.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Nosferatu said:

Mercenaries is so damn good except for the lyrics, but cause they're not cringe lyrics like California blink, I can deal with it.

I was about to type - "I actually think Mercenaries has some of the better lyrics on that record" but realised I was just remembering snippets, so I looked it up.

nevermind. the lyrics are as bad as all the others haha 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
46 minutes ago, Kay said:

I was about to type - "I actually think Mercenaries has some of the better lyrics on that record" but realised I was just remembering snippets, so I looked it up.

nevermind. the lyrics are as bad as all the others haha 

Haha, it's no "I think i like today, i think it's good" or "the ice is really cold". Don't think the lyrics are cringe on Mercenaries or anything, but they're very below average. But it gets away with it cause of how the song is. The song sounds so much like blink yet sounds like a complete clusterfuck but in a good way. It has the long intro and I like how it builds into the verses rather than a riff, it has Tom kinda shouting/singing which is always good IMO. The guitars sound trashy but raw as hell. Just kinda like normal punk rock guitars. It's just a rock song that actually goes somewhere. No bullshit pretentious stuff. It's unpredictable in song structure. It sounds like what blink should've been. One of my favourite songs because of all the aspects I've mentioned. Surprised it's an AVA track because of it. Sounds more blink than AVA.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Nosferatu said:

Haha, it's no "I think i like today, i think it's good" or "the ice is really cold". Don't think the lyrics are cringe on Mercenaries or anything, but they're very below average. But it gets away with it cause of how the song is. The song sounds so much like blink yet sounds like a complete clusterfuck but in a good way. It has the long intro and I like how it builds into the verses rather than a riff, it has Tom kinda shouting/singing which is always good IMO. The guitars sound trashy but raw as hell. Just kinda like normal punk rock guitars. It's just a rock song that actually goes somewhere. No bullshit pretentious stuff. It's unpredictable in song structure. It sounds like what blink should've been. One of my favourite songs because of all the aspects I've mentioned. Surprised it's an AVA track because of it. Sounds more blink than AVA.

It definitely sounds more blink than AVA, I've always liked the song because yeah, it's a mess but in a good way. I think if you're not paying attention the lyrics aren't too bad, like the chorus, and I like parts of lines but when you look at it as a whole it's just a confusing meaningless durge, like most of his lyrics of the last decade or more. It's why I've always struggled with AVA, Tom acts like it's full of meaning and purpose but they barely make any sense thematically or even grammatically a lot of the time. He isn't intelligent enough to pull off poignancy in lyrics, if it isn't jokey or just down to earth and human expression he just falls flat imo. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

AVA definately has some great songs, especially since Ilan came around. My favourites i can think of right now before the Rubins came along:


Sirens

Lifeline

Heaven

The flight of apollo

Young London

Anxiety

The Revelator

 

All of the dream walker is pretty decent and i love the ambience of that record.

View from below is probably one of my favorite things tom has ever been a part of.

 

WYHSB is a great record, whenever i listen to it i think it's great. but i always foget it exists. It's very good at what it is. a very Basic rock album. Lyrics are superb though

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Neal said:

View from below is probably one of my favorite things tom has ever been a part of.

THAAANK YOU! So many people were down on Of Nightmares and I think it might be my favourite release of AVA overall. I love all 4 of them, even Into The Night which I hated initially has grown on me loads. it's such a great collection of songs, but View From Below is my favourite one, probably in my top 5 AVA songs overall. 

  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you want some cringe Tom lyrics:

Every tear is so alone 
Like God himself is coming home to say 

I, I can do anything 
If you want me here 
And I can fix any thing 
If you let me near 
Where are those secrets now
That you're too scared to tell 
I'd whisper them all aloud 
So you can hear yourself 

 

It feels like Tom was attempting to channel God's comfort, then he suddenly gets all anxious to hear some ridiculous conspiracy theory's "truths" with his new powers. Like, they will have to tell him the secrets of the missing alien warehouse now! 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, _Kyle_ said:

you want some cringe Tom lyrics:

Every tear is so alone 
Like God himself is coming home to say 

I, I can do anything 
If you want me here 
And I can fix any thing 
If you let me near 
Where are those secrets now
That you're too scared to tell 
I'd whisper them all aloud 
So you can hear yourself 

 

It feels like Tom was attempting to channel God's comfort, then he suddenly gets all anxious to hear some ridiculous conspiracy theory's "truths" with his new powers. Like, they will have to tell him the secrets of the missing alien warehouse now! 

This is A Little's Enough isn't it? I always thought this was quite possibly the worst AVA song of all time. It's full of cringe lyrics and awful vocals. It genuinely reminded me of Simple Plan when I first heard it, vocally. I still think "Your smile is gone, I noticed it bad" is one of the stupidest fucking lyrics ever written. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Kay said:

This is A Little's Enough isn't it? I always thought this was quite possibly the worst AVA song of all time. It's full of cringe lyrics and awful vocals. It genuinely reminded me of Simple Plan when I first heard it, vocally. I still think "Your smile is gone, I noticed it bad" is one of the stupidest fucking lyrics ever written. 

hey screw you guys, i love this song!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like A Little's Enough but I feel blink did a similar song in I'm Lost Without You, which blows that song out the water. Outside a couple of dodgy lyrics and the bridge of A Little's Enough, it's a pretty good song IMO. Love the verses that lead into that palm muted part.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, ...Dan... said:

A Little Enough is good, lyrics are shit but the music is good. Classic AVA really tbh. 

I tend to agree.  I like it as a slower AaA song.  The lyrics definitely could use some work, but its a good listen overall, Good Day is very similar for me, man I hate some of those lyrics, but the song overall is very solid.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah they're just fucking awful.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Margie Whipple's Rage said:

Well, you're wrong.

So's your face.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...