Neal Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 Tom is not a great singer or great guitarist in a technical sense, but his songwritingability surely is something a lot of people tried to copy, yet no one really got it right. Does that make him a genius? probably not..... but he sure was/is a very unique gem in this music world(for me) that strives for simplicity and comfort, and i really wish he would put out more music just to show his abilities he definitaly still has somewhere burried under all the crazy shit that he went through..... Mark is a great songwriter, with a great recognisable voice, suited for the genre he decides to work in... tom is a guy that divides and makes this forum fight day by day..... maybe he's not that great, but, even as unactive as he currently is, still makes up about 70 percent of the posts of this forum.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 Mark has lost it as a musician. I assume that's why he needs Feldmann and Skiba to do a bunch of his writing. That's ok. I can always listen to Apple Shampoo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 I don't think he's lost it. Although I do think he has writers block if he's writing solely by himself, but that isn't a bad thing in my opinion. I'd rather him question his own lyrics, ideas and take his time, because once he's finally finished, his songs tend to be pretty great I think. I know blink used to rush their songwriting back in their early years, especially with their first 2 albums, but they're not the same people anymore. Mark is happily married, and if he's not with blink he's with his family it seems. Probably doesn't have much to write about unless he's dealing with personal stuff which at the moment doesn't seem to be the case. His songs with +44 and blink with their Neighborhoods album are pretty personal songs. California doesn't have that genuine factor outside of a few songs. San Diego, although rushed, is a great song, as it is actually what Mark feels. The guy can crap out 100 songs about Tom in a week, and I'd guarantee nearly all of them would be great. When there's not much to write about, then you may as well take time, that's just my opinion. As for Tom, he's a great songwriter too. He pushes the sound. Lyrically he's nowhere near as good as Mark IMO. Tom has great ideas though, but they often fall short without Mark and Travis keeping him down to earth. That said, I enjoyed Dream Walker a lot, partly because of him allowing more creative involvement from Rubin. Tom is just better when he's working on songs with other people rather than just coming up with everything himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 hours ago, vic vinegar said: Mark has lost it as a musician. I assume that's why he needs Feldmann and Skiba to do a bunch of his writing. That's ok. I can always listen to Apple Shampoo. Just decided to listen to Apple Shampoo because of this post. Damn what a song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Champ182 said: Just decided to listen to Apple Shampoo because of this post. Damn what a song. One of my all-time favorites. If I'm being honest it's probably my favorite off DR even though I love Enthused and Emo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos182 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 15 hours ago, Nosferatu said: I don't think he's lost it. Although I do think he has writers block if he's writing solely by himself, but that isn't a bad thing in my opinion. I'd rather him question his own lyrics, ideas and take his time, because once he's finally finished, his songs tend to be pretty great I think. I know blink used to rush their songwriting back in their early years, especially with their first 2 albums, but they're not the same people anymore. Mark is happily married, and if he's not with blink he's with his family it seems. Probably doesn't have much to write about unless he's dealing with personal stuff which at the moment doesn't seem to be the case. His songs with +44 and blink with their Neighborhoods album are pretty personal songs. California doesn't have that genuine factor outside of a few songs. San Diego, although rushed, is a great song, as it is actually what Mark feels. The guy can crap out 100 songs about Tom in a week, and I'd guarantee nearly all of them would be great. When there's not much to write about, then you may as well take time, that's just my opinion. As for Tom, he's a great songwriter too. He pushes the sound. Lyrically he's nowhere near as good as Mark IMO. Tom has great ideas though, but they often fall short without Mark and Travis keeping him down to earth. That said, I enjoyed Dream Walker a lot, partly because of him allowing more creative involvement from Rubin. Tom is just better when he's working on songs with other people rather than just coming up with everything himself. Totally agree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 12 hours ago, vic vinegar said: One of my all-time favorites. If I'm being honest it's probably my favorite off DR even though I love Enthused and Emo. and Lemmings?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horchata Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'd agree that Mark is definitely not the song writer he was... As weird as Tom is / was - he always did push the music in a direction - it never stayed in the same place. TOYPAJ to Self Titled, Self Titled to WDNTW, to I Empire, to DED, to the Dreamwalker. Gotta hand it to the guy, he's progressive... Whereas say what you will about California - it's definitely not progressive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Janinator said: and Lemmings?? Yes, I love Lemmings too. My mistake. I mean, the whole album is phenomenal. I also dig I'm Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC182 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 http://www.texasufosightings.com/buzz/ufo-community-discusses-leaked-tom-delonge-movie-trailer Many different expert quotes on UFOs can be heard throughout the trailer, and I doubt many will be surprised by them. However, there are some things Tom Delonge has "found out" through his research that he does share in the video, so I wanted to capture: Certain things should never have been secret There were certain secrets that were justifiable at time, but should now be disclosed There are certain things (truths) so terrifying and so unimaginable, that certain interests don't think they should ever be disclosed to us Edit: feel welcome to join debate / redpilling-thread, fellows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Stay in your wacko thread, don't bring this shit out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Yeah get the fuck out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerpipe Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 4:03 AM, CC182 said: http://www.texasufosightings.com/buzz/ufo-community-discusses-leaked-tom-delonge-movie-trailer Many different expert quotes on UFOs can be heard throughout the trailer, and I doubt many will be surprised by them. However, there are some things Tom Delonge has "found out" through his research that he does share in the video, so I wanted to capture: Certain things should never have been secret There were certain secrets that were justifiable at time, but should now be disclosed There are certain things (truths) so terrifying and so unimaginable, that certain interests don't think they should ever be disclosed to us Edit: feel welcome to join debate / redpilling-thread, fellows. What a bunch of dumbfucks lol. Around the 2 minute mark when the trailer is getting all serious and shit there's a red flag that comes up on the screen that's supposed to say "anti-gravity" but they misspelled it so it reads "anit" gravity haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hey at least I know where to talk about Lemmings and where to talk about conspiracies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Smalls said: What a bunch of dumbfucks lol. Around the 2 minute mark when the trailer is getting all serious and shit there's a red flag that comes up on the screen that's supposed to say "anti-gravity" but they misspelled it so it reads "anit" gravity haha. To be fair, it was a trailer that was in production that was leaked. They were still working on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 11:31 AM, Janinator said: and Lemmings?? i wouldn't call that a DR track as it was written and first recorded in 95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, daveyjones said: i wouldn't call that a DR track as it was written and first recorded in 95. But what album did 99% of us hear it on? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, vic vinegar said: But what album did 99% of us hear it on? well, sure. but in the same way i wouldn't call bad religion's 21st century digital boy a song from stranger than fiction (though i heard it there first). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vic vinegar Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 5 hours ago, daveyjones said: well, sure. but in the same way i wouldn't call bad religion's 21st century digital boy a song from stranger than fiction (though i heard it there first). What release was the original recording of Lemmings on? Not trying to start a fight, argue or otherwise insult you... just not sure when Lemmings was truly first released on a record, tape, CD, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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