Champ182 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, BigOilyMenInBlack said: And actually, Ghent, some of the most pioneering guitarists ever (in my mind, anyway) had very rudimentary styles. Like Johnny Ramone, for instance. But I agree, is Tom one of the great guitar gods of rock music? No. Is he probably one of the top 10 most influential rock guitarists of the 90s? Honestly, maybe. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Thibaut182 said: All I can think about is pop star now when I see tmz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowson Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 he was super diplomatic there about that. I always thought Travis was a bit of a scumbag, but that was cool of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknem92 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I think Tom was super influential. Because blink was huge. And their style was completely apart from Green Day, Offspring, Sum 41. And along with Green Day, blink will be forever remembered as THE pop punk band. So, Tom, might have pioneered something. This is not very important though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 So, with No Future out we can expect a facebook post any minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPGBlink Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 53 minutes ago, RAX said: So, with No Future out we can expect a facebook post any minute. I'm waiting a picture of him from years ago playing guitar or some shit. Something to get the masses of his followers talking and praising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, WPGBlink said: I'm waiting a picture of him from years ago playing guitar or some shit. Something to get the masses of his followers talking and praising. Or something bigger and raises questions. Like a picture of the box car racer cover and no text with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 8 hours ago, Clarke said: I'll say it again. Tom took guitar ideas from his scene and spearheaded them into the pop world in a new and successful way. Kyle, I'm not talking about being the first pop band to have a "punk sound", I'm talking about being the first to incorporate specific guitar elements into the mainstream at blink's magnitude. The last time I checked, the reason people have a feud with Green Day is that they are typically power-chord anthems that don't have the catchy guitar riffs that blink has thrived off of. Of course they're popular though. Green Day pioneered many other things. To address blink's image, yes marketing helped get them to where they were. But this doesn't mean their songwriting didn't help. Of course it did. It would be naive to brush off their songwriting and not credit blink's success at all to it. To reach blink's magnitude, you need both. There's a reason their songs have lasting power. Just ask, why are you here on these forums? What about the Offspring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Zoomer Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Thibaut182 said: "I HOPE TO GOD he finds something man." lmao 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnious Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 51 minutes ago, Clarke said: I'm not trying to read these past few pages. What's the status update on this? Did people realize that Tom was a pioneer? Or are people still trying to say that he didn't pioneer a single thing pi·o·neer verb 1. develop or be the first to use or apply (a new method, area of knowledge, or activity). So...what exactly did Tom pioneer? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 He pioneered having a creepy legion of followers despite not writing that great of a song for 13 odd years... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Your arrogance is astounding. truly remarkable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 @Clarke We actually gave the pioneer title to Mark since he wrote Dammit and Rock Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 15 hours ago, thongrider said: What about the Offspring? This might be because I was later getting into the scene or something, but the Offspring was never even on me or my friends' radar other than a couple of their hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 No, but I think we agreed that Mark is probably the one pioneering that blink guitar sound, not Delonge. Dammit was their first hit. So Mark is the Pioneer. Tom just followed suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 we all know that german happy hardcore was the real pioneer. from 1996: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 You really showed them how good Mark was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 39 minutes ago, Clarke said: Haha I thought I've seen it all on these forums. People first refused to acknowledge that there was any pioneering at all, and now that they have realized it, they still refuse to credit Tom. Ridiculous. Pioneering their sound, yes but not the style. Tom didn't pioneer anything, Blink as a whole did. Tom had a unique style but he has always emulated bands that came before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 He has always leaned very heavily on Mark too. You know, the pioneering one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsov Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Mark hasn't spoken with Tom once since 2014. http://themusic.com.au/news/all/2016/06/24/exclusive-mark-hoppus-denies-tom-delonge%E2%80%99s-blink-reunion-claims/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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