b00bies Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 8 hours ago, M!ke said: trying to make it his own, trying to dictate everything that the band should be. good post, but imagine what it feels like to be in the band with current Mark Hoppus who can't write a decent song to save his life. Forget about that Tom is a dick and always would delay studio schedule. Tom was a driving force. Imagine just one day in the studio, you would get a Mark sitting and waiting for Tom to come with a decent riffs, hooks, melodies. Mark would throw a basic notes and lay down a wierd lyrics. What's more bizzare is that Mark would trash bunch of Tom ideas, but has none of his own. That's why Tom is perfectly happy with Ilan. Two freaks getting together and mixing tons of ideas even if Tom admittedly said he was running out of good ones. It's much better than sitting with Mark who is getting paranoid af. In a perfect world they should drop the bullshit and be happy and creative in the studio. Too much shit happened that both of them can't move on without hating each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, b00bies said: good post, but imagine what it feels like to be in the band with current Mark Hoppus who can't write a decent song to save his life. Forget about that Tom is a dick and always would delay studio schedule. Tom was a driving force. Imagine just one day in the studio, you would get a Mark sitting and waiting for Tom to come with a decent riffs, hooks, melodies. Mark would throw a basic notes and lay down a wierd lyrics. What's more bizzare is that Mark would trash bunch of Tom ideas, but has none of his own. That's why Tom is perfectly happy with Ilan. Two freaks getting together and mixing tons of ideas even if Tom admittedly said he was running out of good ones. It's much better than sitting with Mark who is getting paranoid af. In a perfect world they should drop the bullshit and be happy and creative in the studio. Too much shit happened that both of them can't move on without hating each other. Well, I'd disagree with your assertion that Mark can't write a decent song. The only song of his post reunion that I don't like was MH24812489, so that whole point is lost on me. I thought I had heard rumors that Illan was out of AaA, and even if he isn't yet, I'd be shocked if he still is 2 or 3 years from now, if that. I'd say Mark and Travis are doing plenty alright moving on without Tom, so I'm not sure why you say they can't move on without him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd14 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I love how people seem to say mark can't write songs or has no confidence as if it's fact and they know the guy closely lol Get a grip.... Grammy nominated album but mark wrote none of it right lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd14 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Cue the Feldman wrote it all comments 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, prankerd14 said: I love how people seem to say mark can't write songs or has no confidence as if it's fact and they know the guy closely lol Get a grip.... Grammy nominated album but mark wrote none of it right lol What is so hard to understand? Mark wrote shit and Feldman fixed it up. By their own admission the shit he wrote alone was sub par. So while Mark in fact wrote some of it, they all got the Feldman dress up, and for the LAST TIME, NO! not what a "producer does" not "what Finn did". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 In short, Mark owes Feldman a grammy if he wins it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd14 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Olidamus said: In short, Mark owes Feldman a grammy if he wins it. Very deluded arnt you lol ... You can say the same shit over and over till your blue in the face ...Doesn't make it fact .... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, Olidamus said: What is so hard to understand? Mark wrote shit and Feldman fixed it up. By their own admission the shit he wrote alone was sub par. So while Mark in fact wrote some of it, they all got the Feldman dress up, and for the LAST TIME, NO! not what a "producer does" not "what Finn did". Well its not typical, but its also not at all unheard of. A producer can be used for lots of different things to varying degrees and extents. They just chose to play it safe with California by hiring a producer that can write songs in their style, so that they could focus on establishing a real chemistry with their new band member. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 A producer is used to produce ... it's in the name ... they have like one job. A Ghost writer though .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henningstar Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 hours ago, b00bies said: good post, but imagine what it feels like to be in the band with current Mark Hoppus who can't write a decent song to save his life. Forget about that Tom is a dick and always would delay studio schedule. Tom was a driving force. Imagine just one day in the studio, you would get a Mark sitting and waiting for Tom to come with a decent riffs, hooks, melodies. Mark would throw a basic notes and lay down a wierd lyrics. What's more bizzare is that Mark would trash bunch of Tom ideas, but has none of his own. That's why Tom is perfectly happy with Ilan. Two freaks getting together and mixing tons of ideas even if Tom admittedly said he was running out of good ones. It's much better than sitting with Mark who is getting paranoid af. In a perfect world they should drop the bullshit and be happy and creative in the studio. Too much shit happened that both of them can't move on without hating each other. And put delay on any guitar riff he made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 30 minutes ago, Stevie Friggin' Speedo! said: A producer is used to produce ... it's in the name ... they have like one job. A Ghost writer though .... Exactly, to produce means to create. And writing music with the band is absolutely a part of the creating process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, prankerd14 said: Very deluded arnt you lol ... You can say the same shit over and over till your blue in the face ...Doesn't make it fact .... You're right, me saying it doesn't make it correct. But what does make it correct is Travis Barker saying it, Feldman saying it, Matt and Mark alluding to it in interviews. Unless they are liars. Are they liars? How am I deluded? That doesn't make any sense. You fanboys/Feldman ass kissers are so crazy that you ignore basic facts given in interviews BY THE FUCKING BAND THEMSELVES. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink182acti0n Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Anyone else love reading the comments on Toms Facebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Hoppus Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Blink182acti0n said: Anyone else love reading the comments on Toms Facebook? no, haha but what's interesting there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Haven't had a good Tom meltdown in awhile, he's been too busy trying to sell us shitty T-shirts, and political posts. His social media is just sad. I'm hoping Blink winning a Grammy will cause a Facebook rant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 37 minutes ago, M!ke said: Exactly, to produce means to create. And writing music with the band is absolutely a part of the creating process. No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Tom seems to be nostalgic for himself and thinks Trump is pretty awful. That's like 90% of the people I know on Facebook. Calm down yall. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Olidamus said: In short, Mark owes Feldman a grammy if he wins it. If they win, Feldmann gets his own grammy because he was a co-writer and producer, I'm sure. Mark doesn't have to be so generous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgod Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Olidamus said: You're right, me saying it doesn't make it correct. But what does make it correct is Travis Barker saying it, Feldman saying it, Matt and Mark alluding to it in interviews. Unless they are liars. Are they liars? How am I deluded? That doesn't make any sense. You fanboys/Feldman ass kissers are so crazy that you ignore basic facts given in interviews BY THE FUCKING BAND THEMSELVES. This. The fucking band confirmed it themselves. They weren't happy with what they were able to produce on their own so they hired Feldy to fix their shit and "polish" the record. Why is that so hard to admit. That's not even judging or saying that California is a bad record. That are just facts! The Feldy fan boys are getting more annoying than the Tom ones... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, ...and then said: This. The fucking band confirmed it themselves. They weren't happy with what they were able to produce on their own so they hired Feldy to fix their shit and "polish" the record. Why is that so hard to admit. That's not even judging or saying that California is a bad record. That are just facts! The Feldy fan boys are getting more annoying than the Tom ones... ummm...who won't admit that? you're not the smartest one are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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