M!ke Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, NotNow said: If that was the case, wouldn't olivertrump have been told that someone else already has the rights, not that the band wasn't interested. Sorry if I wasn't clear. What I'm saying is that because they released the album through Modlife, effectively making Modlife the label for Dogs Eating Dogs, it is my theory that Tom actually stood to make more money no matter who they pressed a physical release with. And if that were the case I imagine this pissed off Mark and Travis and they called off the physical release, hence why he was told that the band wasn't interested. I truly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, phillyguitar92 said: Modlife ultimately suffered the same fate as MySpace. Eventually, some better and more accessible form of the technology or platform arises. I don't think much about Modlife was particularly revolutionary, but some of the ideas were actually ok. Paying a subscription fee to have behind the scenes online access to demos, live chats, early presales, rehearsals is pretty cool - and many people would definitely pay 10-15 bucks a month to be able to get exclusive content from a favorite band that's not available elsewhere. I don't think that was the problem. The problem was more the fact that technology was invented where bands could do these things on their own terms (Instagram live, Snapchat, Facebook live, and numerous other online apps and platforms) - so as somebody mentioned - why pay a fee to stream your shit on modlife when you can do it on Instagram for free? Sure you might not get the few hundreds of monthly subscription fees coming in but you don't have to pay the fees to the company/Tom because you can just do it all on your own. And most bands would rather have free and accessible exposure for all on Instagram/Facebook/Snapchat/ect than make a little bit of cash streaming it to select people. So it wasn't a terrible idea - but it definitely wasn't revolutionary either. Yeah, there were definitely some good ideas in there. I think part of the reason it failed was that even Angels & Airwaves (which was by far the band with the highest draw to the site) stopped using it regularly. I joined when Modlife was brand new and it was actually pretty awesome at first because the band members were all super active on there, and we were actually able to communicate with them on Modlife video chats and stuff. It was a lot of fun being able to ask Tom to play a certain song when he would pull out his acoustic guitar, and having him actually play the song you requested (this happened a few times for me. My favorite was when I asked him to play Touchdown Boy, and he did! I also asked him to sing Tim's part on Cat Like Thief and he did it, which was funny). But as time went on, you could tell that the novelty of it was wearing off for the band members. They all became less and less active, and so there was less and less of a reason to keep paying for a subscription. Not to mention we never got a lot of the things that Tom said would eventually be available to subscribers (like exclusive songs, etc...). Tom and AVA themselves lost interest in Modlife, and in turn, everyone else did as well. I think Dogs Eating Dogs was Tom's last attempt to keep Modlife relevant, and when that didn't work, he gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Forgive me for not reading through all the posts on all the threads, but has this been discussed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarJarBlinks Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 hours ago, thongrider said: Don't hate on Jar Jar that way! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Cheerios4u98 said: Forgive me for not reading through all the posts on all the threads, but has this been discussed yet? I think Mark should guest again for Elevator part 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 8 hours ago, M!ke said: Sorry if I wasn't clear. What I'm saying is that because they released the album through Modlife, effectively making Modlife the label for Dogs Eating Dogs, it is my theory that Tom actually stood to make more money no matter who they pressed a physical release with. And if that were the case I imagine this pissed off Mark and Travis and they called off the physical release, hence why he was told that the band wasn't interested. I truly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. Label for DED, if we can call it a label, was Viking Wizard Eyes -which is the same that released California too, then licensed to BMG, if I'm correct-. It's the same thing Foo Fighters have been doing for years: they release their albums under Roswell Records, property of Dave Grohl, an then licensing to much bigger labels for their distribution. That's the safer way to keep your records safe and its rights under your control: owning them under your label, and then licensing them for distribution. You pay a major label for it, but in the end, with bands like this, the sales and worldwide distribution pays all the effort, while still owning your recordings. As far as I know, Modlife wasn't a label itself, but a platform which was capable of selling stuff, it could have worked as a 'distribution' deal, though. Is like a band selling its album on iTunes. The label is not iTunes. But the platform is making a cut for selling it as digital distributor. I think that was the deal Tom really wanted to achieve. Probably he was thinking abount singing big bands like blink in order to gain/buy distribution rights and start to make more money to grow, and then, maybe, he had plans to create a label, but that's only my speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said: Forgive me for not reading through all the posts on all the threads, but has this been discussed yet? It has and it would be stellar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy030 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said: LMAO perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, _Kyle_ said: It has and it would be stellar. I thought you were trolling with this Tom Delonge crap, a certain someone sent me a PM and said you were not. But after stuff like this, I think I disagree with them, I think you are. Given the current situation with Tom, I just don't think there is anyway you can believe a BCR album would be "stellar" you are intentionally trying to annoy people. The act is somewhat subtle, which is good, but I don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, Olidamus said: I thought you were trolling with this Tom Delonge crap, a certain someone sent me a PM and said you were not. But after stuff like this, I think I disagree with them, I think you are. Given the current situation with Tom, I just don't think there is anyway you can believe a BCR album would be "stellar" you are intentionally trying to annoy people. The act is somewhat subtle, which is good, but I don't buy it. Who is PMing you about me? I would love to hear an Anthony Green guest vocal on anything. Whether it be BCR or Blink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Olidamus said: I thought you were trolling with this Tom Delonge crap, a certain someone sent me a PM and said you were not. But after stuff like this, I think I disagree with them, I think you are. Given the current situation with Tom, I just don't think there is anyway you can believe a BCR album would be "stellar" you are intentionally trying to annoy people. The act is somewhat subtle, which is good, but I don't buy it. If his entire persona here is a troll, that's sure a lot of effort to put into something with very little reward...would there really be a point to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ghent said: If his entire persona here is a troll, that's sure a lot of effort to put into something with very little reward...would there really be a point to it? Well I don't think he is a total troll, I just think on the Tom stuff, feels like he is pushing the buttons of Tom haters. There is no way he can think that a BCR album would sound good. I just don't buy it. Some of the other stuff he says too like how Blink is "Toms band" and then when I explain how the band belongs to all of them, he keeps falling back on the "its Tom's band". It feels like he is just trying to get a reaction and doesn't really believe a lot of what he is saying. But I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Olidamus said: Well I don't think he is a total troll, I just think on the Tom stuff, feels like he is pushing the buttons of Tom haters. There is no way he can think that a BCR album would sound good. I just don't buy it. Some of the other stuff he says too like how Blink is "Toms band" and then when I explain how the band belongs to all of them, he keeps falling back on the "its Tom's band". It feels like he is just trying to get a reaction and doesn't really believe a lot of what he is saying. But I could be wrong. It's hard to say. He's either the world's most unfunny troll or just has terrible opinions about many things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Ghent does not understand internet trolling. There's a code, you gotta follow it. It's secret for those who don't troll. The reward is in the trolling itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 But Blink IS Tom's band. Doesn't mean people have to like it, but it's the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, thongrider said: But Blink IS Tom's band. Doesn't mean people have to like it, but it's the truth. Exactly. I'm sorry some people can't get that, but please try to live in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ghent said: It's hard to say. He's either the world's most unfunny troll or just has terrible opinions about many things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Lol, Oliver this is coming from a die hard California bot, Failedmann fiend. Me thinks he is the troll here. or he just has horrible opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2point5 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Tom's now tweeting old, unfunny dad jokes. I love the guy but he's really craving attention lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Something had to have happened behind the scenes to trigger this behavior, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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