Chewy030 Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said: The fact that Rubano said it’s coming soon gives me hope, he pretty much never posts about AVA. If things keep going the way they're going with Covid touring could start picking up again by late Summer. So releasing it soon would for sure be ideal. We know at this point it's done aside from mixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 5:19 PM, Tom Bot said: I don’t think it’s as simple as you’re making it out to be. A lot of athletes have careers that last 10-25 years, similar to Tom’s relevancy. Athletes also have alternative revenue streams like endorsements. They both grew up without the need to learn financial responsibilities. There’s probably more similarities than differences here. Yea and the athletes that have 10-25 year careers do not end up broke. Those are the ones that come out filthy rich and skew the average wealth of professional athletes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Anyone can go “broke,” it doesn’t matter how rich you are. I don’t think Tom is broke, but he’s clearly had financial issues over the last 10 years. Do you really think the TTS investing thing was started in good faith? C’mon, that was criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Ghent said: Anyone can go “broke,” it doesn’t matter how rich you are. I don’t think Tom is broke, but he’s clearly had financial issues over the last 10 years. Do you really think the TTS investing thing was started in good faith? C’mon, that was criminal. You don't have to be in financial trouble to scam people though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 hours ago, NotNow said: Yea and the athletes that have 10-25 year careers do not end up broke. Those are the ones that come out filthy rich and skew the average wealth of professional athletes. Allen Iverson went bankrupt. Evander Kane in the NHL owes more money than he’s making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Tom Bot said: Allen Iverson went bankrupt. Evander Kane in the NHL owes more money than he’s making. Mike Tyson declared bankruptcy at one point. That’s a guy who was worth as much as Tiger Woods Curt Schilling lost all his money on dumb investments and then started scamming people These are people way richer than Tom. It happens all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ghent said: Mike Tyson declared bankruptcy at one point. That’s a guy who was worth as much as Tiger Woods Curt Schilling lost all his money on dumb investments and then started scamming people These are people way richer than Tom. It happens all the time. Yeah, some here forgets that it’s mainly not any different for rich people than it is for us as they change their living standard (is this the correct term?) after what they make. In Toms case his living standard* shouldn’t be the same as it was when he did blink as the money from touring disappeared. And that’s probably why he sold the rights to his songs. I mean probably not because he was going bankrupt, but more so that he could keep the living standard* to what he was used to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamidoingthis Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 9:52 PM, Ghent said: Lol exactly. Broke Tom is obviously going to have more money and assets than any of us dildos could dream of. He’s not going to go broke and live on the streets. But is he doing great for a former member of blink-182? Objectively (and put in financial perspective) it doesn’t look good, and hasn’t for a very long time. He has ended up selling off or folding almost every single venture he has been a part of over the last 10+ years. Anyone who read the TTS SEC financial fine print that was released a couple years ago could see some serious red flags. He’s lucky a giant class action lawsuit wasn’t opened for the fake TTS Academy investing bullshit. That was what I expected, but it came and went so quickly I guess everyone just forgot about it? Did anyone here “invest” in that? If so, bless your heart I didn’t by the way, lol, but I agree. He’s obviously more broke than he theoretically could have been. But he’s still loaded beyond belief when compared to a “regular” person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Whyamidoingthis said: I didn’t by the way, lol, but I agree. He’s obviously more broke than he theoretically could have been. But he’s still loaded beyond belief when compared to a “regular” person. Yeah, it’s on a completely different scale. A rich athlete or musician can declare bankruptcy and will still be loaded in comparison to an average working class person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 11:24 PM, Ghent said: Anyone can go “broke,” it doesn’t matter how rich you are. I don’t think Tom is broke, but he’s clearly had financial issues over the last 10 years. Do you really think the TTS investing thing was started in good faith? C’mon, that was criminal. Yea I said I agree with that three posts before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, NotNow said: Yea I said I agree with that three posts before this. You literally said athletes with long careers don't go broke. Curt Schilling played for 20 years. Broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghent said: You literally said athletes with long careers don't go broke. Curt Schilling played for 20 years. Broke I wasn’t even talking about that but okay I guess. I was talking about the to the stars investments being a scam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 11:02 PM, NotNow said: Yea and the athletes that have 10-25 year careers do not end up broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NotNow said: I wasn’t even talking about that but okay I guess. I was talking about the to the stars investments being a scam You're fighting a losing battle trying to convince ghent to think critically about tom regardless 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamidoingthis Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Depf said: Do we have any idea how much his catalog was worth? I mean he's not the first to sell all his songs, maybe that would give us a good idea. was it just blink or also ava?So maybe +5 mill for blink -2 for ava= 3 million profit? something like that? It was just blink I’m pretty sure, not AVA. I remember there was a video or something with someone trying to make an educated guess as to what his catalog would have sold for. Maybe l can find it. But I remember Offspring sold their catalog for I think 30 million... also apparently after... 30 years? You get the rights back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted March 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 While I don't think Tom will necessarily file for bankruptcy, the people here outright dismissing it based on nothing should probably be a bit more open-minded here. A quick search shows a lot of musicians that had more money than Tom went bankrupt. https://playback.fm/musicians-bankrupt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 It's odd you guys care. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 The quicker Tom goes broke the quicker he'll beg Travis and Mark for some of that tour $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, vic vinegar said: The quicker Tom goes broke the quicker he'll beg Travis and Mark for some of that tour $$$ So worth it. Just kidding, that'd be so painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lagwagon isnt yours Speedo said: So worth it. Just kidding, that'd be so painful. I dunno. I had a fun time in 2009 even though the group hug was clearly staged. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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