Cheerios4u98 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 It's still hilarious how much of a blatant ripoff the demo is of The Knife. Kind of a bummer because I actually like Tom's version more than The Knife. The verses at least. That pitched up chorus is painful to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 hours ago, wannabe corn dog said: i think it's 12 songs now but yeah. i'm assuming they're not really radio singles. rise records did this same thing with the new afi album. seven songs prior to the full release. I don't think Tom needs to worry about radio singles anymore lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kibbles Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Neal said: Circa Survive did a great cover of this during the quarantine and it reminded me of something but I couldn't quite put my finger on it, fuckin Wolfpack lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 10:28 AM, Neal said: Serious question Anyone else think its at least questionable how tom says he wanted to write a song against toxic masculinity, but directed a video where the only job of the woman on set is to look hot in her underwear. Also the line "get on your knees, we're gonna play tonight".... I'm no native english speaker, maybe its meant to be in a satirical way, but at least the music video is a great example how women are are objectified by men... Am i overanalyzing this? Oh please. First of all, there are plenty of women out there who would be into “get down on your knees, we’re gonna play tonight.” That’s not objectifying anybody. The lyric has nothing to do with toxic masculinity. Get off your high horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: Oh please. First of all, there are plenty of women out there who would be into “get down on your knees, we’re gonna play tonight.” That’s not objectifying anybody. The lyric has nothing to do with toxic masculinity. Get off your high horse. you somehow managed to completely misunderstand my post, yet validated my point. bravo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 12:15 AM, Cum said: No, but it has moments of +44 (Heaven) and Alkaline Trio/Skiba's solo stuff (Black Rain). The album also was a first in terms of writing off Travis' drum lines and having so many song writers/producers involved. It was a shit mix but it sounded overall better than the California era did IMO. Lol many wrong statements here where do I begin. Black Rain sounds nothing like AK3 and nothing like any Skiba solo shit I’ve ever heard. Although I haven’t heard much. But definitely does not sound like AK3. blink has written based on Travis’s drumbeats plenty of times before, go back to Untitled son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Neal said: you somehow managed to completely misunderstand my post, yet validated my point. bravo Na, you’re just an idiot. You’re misunderstanding me, not the other way around. And how could I validate your wack ass suspicious about Tom’s lyrics? Someone call Tom and tell him Diddy Faplord just validated him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: Oh please. First of all, there are plenty of women out there who would be into “get down on your knees, we’re gonna play tonight.” That’s not objectifying anybody. The lyric has nothing to do with toxic masculinity. Get off your high horse. Ehhh, it's pretty creepy either way though. Tom lyrics with sexual innuendos in a non-joking way gross me out. I'm here for the poo poo jokes, not the sexual predation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghent said: Ehhh, it's pretty creepy either way though. Tom lyrics with sexual innuendos in a non-joking way gross me out. I'm here for the poo poo jokes, not the sexual predation Yea I’m not saying it’s a great lyric. But claiming it’s toxic masculinity is making Neal sound like a virgin out here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 are you somehow insecure about your own sexuality? sorry i didn't mean to trigger you i never said that line is per se toxic. but to use that line in a song that is supposed to be this anti-toxic masculinity anthem while you direct that kind of video is fucking weird. and yeah, the way you react to that line makes it seem even more problematic imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Neal said: are you somehow insecure about your own sexuality? sorry i didn't mean to trigger you i never said that line is per se toxic. but to use that line in a song that is supposed to be this anti-toxic masculinity anthem while you direct that kind of video is fucking weird. and yeah, the way you react to that line makes it seem even more problematic. The way I react to that line is problematic? By stating there’s no relation to it and toxic masculinity? There’s nothing wrong with it. At all. Millions of consenting adults talk that way to each other every day. I’m sorry you aren’t included in that demographic 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: Lol many wrong statements here where do I begin. Black Rain sounds nothing like AK3 and nothing like any Skiba solo shit I’ve ever heard. Although I haven’t heard much. But definitely does not sound like AK3. blink has written based on Travis’s drumbeats plenty of times before, go back to Untitled son The main octave runs in the song are basically paint by number Alkalinr Trio. He has a very unique use of octaves and this song follows that. I pointed it out when the song first came out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: The way I react to that line is problematic? By stating there’s no relation to it and toxic masculinity? There’s nothing wrong with it. At all. Millions of consenting adults talk that way to each other every day. I’m sorry you aren’t included in that demographic 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Speedo said: The main octave runs in the song are basically paint by number Alkalinr Trio. He has a very unique use of octaves and this song follows that. I pointed it out when the song first came out as well. Hmmm. I mean I’m not disputing that I trust your knowledge but I am just saying the song overall doesn’t feel like AK3 to me. But I’m not really a Trio fan anyways so this isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Neal said: No. You don’t have a point. You are all over the place and a sad Virgin, I’ll let this slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Telling a woman to get on her knees is like the definition of toxic masculinity lol. The lyric is both douchy and creepy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 hours ago, jlx9 said: Yeah it’s a shame because it’s way more cohesive and the demo is miles better than what actually came out, at least melodic wise. Even the second verse idea had potential outside of the repetition, Tom should’ve been developed it more. The prechorus and chorus in there are some of his best hooks. I enjoy TDW but imagine Untitled-esque instrumentation with that chorus. 🤤 Yeah it sounds so much better. The melody they eventually settled on doesn't work with the instrumentation at all, it just becomes like one huge sound pile with nothing standing out. That higher chorus would have sounded amazing if it was fully produced and it's probably the most I-Empire thing he's written since I-Empire. I still remember when they posted the clip of the high pitched chorus on instagram, I was so pumped for it. How he played us all haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghent said: Telling a woman to get on her knees is like the definition of toxic masculinity lol. The lyric is both douchy and creepy Oh please. A woman could say the same thing to a man. And that happens all the time. You guys must only be into Vanilla Sex. It’s unbelievable you children can’t separate real toxic masculinity from consenting sexuality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient #48273 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: Oh please. A woman could say the same thing to a man. And that happens all the time. You guys must only be into Vanilla Sex. It’s unbelievable you children can’t separate real toxic masculinity from consenting sexuality This was definitively established weeks ago. #vanillapride 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Timmy Two Nuts said: Oh please. A woman could say the same thing to a man. And that happens all the time. You guys must only be into Vanilla Sex. It’s unbelievable you children can’t separate real toxic masculinity from consenting sexuality I've never heard a woman aggressively tell a man to get on his knees and suck her clam. Maybe in a porno or something 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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