Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, twentytwenty said: I won't argue with you, we clearly have different views on this. Dudeeeee. Lol, he already was playing with a Rock N Roll Hall of Fame band prior to Tom. Now he is playing with Tom. You can't say with a straight face that Tom made him or gave him his shot. That's not true dude. If so, how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Texas Toast said: That is true. But that's not the point. The point is dude already existed and was doing his thing before Tom. I'll kick your fucking ass, toast boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Texas Toast said: Dudeeeee. Lol, he already was playing with a Rock N Roll Hall of Fame band prior to Tom. Now he is playing with Tom. You can't say with a straight face that Tom made him or gave him his shot. That's not true dude. If so, how? You know, he also did session work with Paramore prior to AVA. That doesn't change that Tom gave him the first big shot with writing with an accomplished songwriter/artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Speedo said: I'll kick your fucking ass, toast boy! That's Mr. Toasty to you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, twentytwenty said: You know, he also did session work with Paramore prior to AVA. That doesn't change that Tom gave him the first big shot with writing with an accomplished songwriter/artist. How's it a big shot? He recorded drums and albums with NIN. Just because he plays guitar as well with Tom doesn't mean much. He doesn't own the AVA name or brand, Tom does. So all he has done is collaborate with Tom, just like he collaborated with Trent Reznir who is a lot more known than your Lord and Savior Tom Delonge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Texas Toast said: How's it a big shot? He recorded drums and albums with NIN. Just because he plays guitar as well with Tom doesn't mean much. He doesn't own the AVA name or brand, Tom does. So all he has done is collaborate with Tom, just like he collaborated with Trent Reznir who is a not more known than your Lord and Savior Tom Delonge. Because, he got a shot at writing. Dude, you're messing with me right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, twentytwenty said: Because, he got a shot at writing. Dude, you're messing with me right? I can see and respect your point. Also, I guess I am not sure if he ever recorded for NIN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Texas Toast said: I can see and respect your point. Also, I guess I am not sure if he ever recorded for NIN. According to discogs, he has credits on three songs on their 2013 album. Nothing more though, and those credit is sketchy as hell tbh, I could feel that way because I haven't heard the songs though. Copy Of A - Drums [Toms] – Ilan Rubin Came Back Haunted - Drums [Toms] – Ilan Rubin I Would For You - Drums [Live] – Ilan Rubin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 I’ll add that toms lyrics became nonsensical with Love. The first two albums were more philosophical than his previous lyrics but were still grounded in reality. His lyrics following those albums became completely nonsensical outside of the blink work and a couple songs here and there. Makes it hard to connect and feel like the music has any meaning to you even if the instrumentation and melody is impactful. This album so far is at least a step in the right direction with being able to discern general meanings of songs, but a lot of individual lyrics are still nonsensical crap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive tomdog Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 i'm perfectly fine with the direction ava has taken with ilan. i don't want the old sound back at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, NotNow said: I’ll add that toms lyrics became nonsensical with Love. The first two albums were more philosophical than his previous lyrics but were still grounded in reality. His lyrics following those albums became completely nonsensical outside of the blink work and a couple songs here and there. Makes it hard to connect and feel like the music has any meaning to you even if the instrumentation and melody is impactful. This album so far is at least a step in the right direction with being able to discern general meanings of songs, but a lot of individual lyrics are still nonsensical crap. I’ve always loved the lyrics for shove. Edit: love is a strong word. I’ve always liked those lyrics is the better phrasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 Once upon a time Illan also used to post on this board in the musicians forums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Trainwreck said: Once upon a time Illan also used to post on this board in the musicians forums. What!? @Ghent Are you really Ilan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Trainwreck said: Once upon a time Illan also used to post on this board in the musicians forums. Before his Youtube video with Travis or after? I wonder why that was taken down. I'd like to see it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ghent said: Before his Youtube video with Travis or after? I wonder why that was taken down. I'd like to see it again What youtube video with Travis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Ghent said: Before his Youtube video with Travis or after? I wonder why that was taken down. I'd like to see it again I think it was right around the time he was in the band Denver Harbor with the guys from FenixTx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient #48273 Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 We need to track down Ilan's account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said: We need to track down Ilan's account. Was just gonna say that. His comments should still all be here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient #48273 Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 That was too easy. @ilan come back. On 5/6/2004 at 11:35 PM, ilan said: Now you're talking. John Bonham is a true rock drummer. Sorry I don't agree about Dave Grohl. I think Grohl is a great all-round musician, singer/songwriter and performer, but even he would agree that he shouldn't appear in the same sentence as Bonzo. ilan www.denverharbor.net 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit me up Jans ex Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said: That was too easy. @ilan come back. That's crazy. When I watched his Guitar Center drum solo all I could think of was he was channeling Bonham. He crushed it. It all makes sense now. Also, that's pretty amazing to think that someone who was posting on this board ended up in a band with Tom. Good for him! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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