NotNow Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kay said: His vocal delivery on that song is quite disappointing. This album is weird for his voice, some surprisingly good moments, some terrible ones, wondering if the stop and start method of recording it meant we got a really weird mix of performances from him. I believe they re-recorded all of the vocals together at the end of the recording process the end of last year or beginning of this year except rebel girl and kiss and tell. There was a post where Toms manager had built a vocal booth in his studio and Aaron said Tom was re-recording all of the vocals and then the album was done after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddey Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 I don’t think it’s the worst album out there but I don’t think I’ll listen to it much. There are all right songs on it but they get annoying very fast. Many of them have such a weird flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knapppers Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Kay said: His vocal delivery on that song is quite disappointing. This album is weird for his voice, some surprisingly good moments, some terrible ones, wondering if the stop and start method of recording it meant we got a really weird mix of performances from him. When he sings hey there little sad girl in Timebomb, it sounds so weird. Like he sang it too low. Doesn't sound like him at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Ghent said: A step in the right direction for him, for sure. But is it really an “AVA” album? The waters have been muddied. It’s clear that when he defers to other collaborators it improves the quality of his music..but I’m not sure why he couldn’t do the same thing with, you know, blink-182? The band he started and owes everything to? You’re entitled to hold this view, but you’d have to group California and Nine into it since they used even more outside collaborators than Tom did. So either all post-Tom Blink albums aren’t real Blink albums since the “waters were muddied” or they are, but this is a legit AvA album. Otherwise you’re just left with shotty selective reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNow Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 My guess is it didn’t work with blink-182 because the pull from Mark was more towards California style re-do enema and Ilan brought well what we got which Tom seems to like his dark synth style. I think Tom hates California he made a couple backhanded comments about it back when it came out without actually saying something directly trashing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Shit Poster said: You’re entitled to hold this view, but you’d have to group California and Nine into it since they used even more outside collaborators than Tom did. So either all post-Tom Blink albums aren’t real Blink albums since the “waters were muddied” or they are, but this is a legit AvA album. Otherwise you’re just left with shotty selective reasoning. Tom only used one outside writer for some songs though. I’m nitpicking here though as I’ve gone full tombot mode this weekend! 😅 But I agree with you, This album where all band members (except cheerleader dave) contributed with songwriting they feel more like a normal functioning band again imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, NotNow said: I believe they re-recorded all of the vocals together at the end of the recording process the end of last year or beginning of this year except rebel girl and kiss and tell. There was a post where Toms manager had built a vocal booth in his studio and Aaron said Tom was re-recording all of the vocals and then the album was done after that. In that case, fuck knows why it’s so inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 When Tom let’s people help him and collaborate a bit, the results are proven to be better. I hope he gives up any future attempts to make AVA a glorified solo project 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knapppers Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghent said: When Tom let’s people help him and collaborate a bit, the results are proven to be better. I hope he gives up any future attempts to make AVA a glorified solo project True. I think he's 100% run out of ideas if he's solo. I mean he straight rehashed an old Ava song on this album 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Knapppers said: True. I think he's 100% run out of ideas if he's solo. I mean he straight rehashed an old Ava song on this album Which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Major yikes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 all of AVA is garbage, it's just degrees of garbage. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghent said: Major yikes Omg. "why was it flying laterally?" Really. I like the ending though, Tom always finds a way to say something nice in between it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njdevils26 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 I enjoy the album. It’s different. I know to each their own and all that shit. Only song that’s a dud for me is the no more guns shit, everything else slaps. Looking forward to seeing them at starland in a few weeks. also, since when did we all start looking to Tom for deep life changing lyrics? It’s hilarious reading you all criticize his lyrics like he’s been some lyrical god all these years. I know nothing on the album matches up to “I drove by your house but you don’t live there anymoreeee” but cut the guy some slack. 4 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Backing Track Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Njdevils26 said: I enjoy the album. It’s different. I know to each their own and all that shit. Only song that’s a dud for me is the no more guns shit, everything else slaps. Looking forward to seeing them at starland in a few weeks. also, since when did we all start looking to Tom for deep life changing lyrics? It’s hilarious reading you all criticize his lyrics like he’s been some lyrical god all these years. I know nothing on the album matches up to “I drove by your house but you don’t live there anymoreeee” but cut the guy some slack. Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Njdevils26 said: also, since when did we all start looking to Tom for deep life changing lyrics? It’s hilarious reading you all criticize his lyrics like he’s been some lyrical god all these years. I know nothing on the album matches up to “I drove by your house but you don’t live there anymoreeee” but cut the guy some slack. Jeez settle down Tombot. We’re allowed to criticise shitty lyrics if we don’t like them. “b-b-b-but blink has shit lyrics now too!!!” Yeah fuck we know. Doesn’t mean we can’t call a spade a spade. Majority of the people shitting on Tom’s lyrics shit on new blink way harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njdevils26 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Russel Coight said: Jeez settle down Tombot. We’re allowed to criticise shitty lyrics if we don’t like them. Trust me, I’m settled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted September 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Let me smooth things over here Blink is simple and shit AvA is simple and shit Tom with Blink is less simple but still pretty shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 After listening to the album a few times today I retract my earlier statement of timebomb, fucking great song! This really is a great album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Shit Poster said: Let me smooth things over here Blink is simple and shit AvA is simple and shit Tom with Blink is less simple but still pretty shit So much truth haha i legit like this album though, still somehow surprised considering I’d heard most of them before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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