2point5 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 21 minutes ago, Ghent said: Especially for a guy who claimed he had to quit blink to spend more time at home with his family. Then he willingly gets entangled into an intergalactic space battle with permanent implications for all of mankind? Nothing to see here. Move along! Totally normal Haha I love Tom, but when you put it like that... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisa Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 The fact that he talks about being able to control the young adults says it all. And on those email you can see that he's just thinking big, he wants to work with Ron Howard, Ridley Scott, HBO or Netflix.. I think he's just wasting money. Do you remember that radio show where he talked about his stuffs a couple of months ago? I didn't listen to all of it because at some point I got mad but you could feel that there was actually something wrong with Tom.. It started well because he talked about early blink and he was down to earth, like the Tom we all knew, then he got into all his secret aliens stuffs and he was so snooty. And very arrogant to the host, when he tried to refute what Tom was saying.. Seeing Tom in this light was just so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Ghent Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I still think it's funny that he genuinely believes he's unlocked some secrets of the universe and will prove alien life to the masses, yet he still wants to peddle it to "young adults" and "brand" it through "multimedia projects." It's so dumb, fake, and manipulative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Value Boy Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Ghent said: You must be around a lot of crazy ass people for your bar to be set so high. Anyone running around saying there are alien gods controlling governments around the world that have been fighting in space for millennia is a verified crazy person in my books. Has he actually said that though? I don't tend to follow his every move a much as you haters so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. Sounds like you might be exaggerating to me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Ghent Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Just now, ...Dan... said: Has he actually said that though? I don't tend to follow his every move a much as you haters so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. Sounds like you might be exaggerating to me though. ummm no. he has actually said that lol. all religions represent an alien space god. and these gods have been fighting throughout human history. governments from around the world align with certain ones. i don't know all the details because i'm not that fucking stupid. but trust me, i'm not exaggerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boring.........Alright Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Damn I'm a bigger Tom supporter than most but he looks ridiculous with those new leaked emails. Very delusional, def talking to himself, pretty arrogant too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 31 minutes ago, Ghent said: ummm no. he has actually said that lol. all religions represent an alien space god. and these gods have been fighting throughout human history. governments from around the world align with certain ones. i don't know all the details because i'm not that fucking stupid. but trust me, i'm not exaggerating. Thing is, if he only casually believed all of that and didn't dedicate his life to pursuing that belief, I truly wouldn't give a shit and wouldn't think much of it. Seriously when you really think about it, that all sounds no more stupid than any of the established and highly followed religions like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or Islamism. But as soon as you dedicate your entire life to pursuing what you believe is real with the absolutely certainty that you must be right, can't be wrong, and that all other belief structures are by default incorrect, that's where you quickly go off the deep end and look like a nut. And that applies to everyone, be it some alien belief that few agree with you on, or the largest religion in the world, as soon as you make that and only that your identity, you lose your grip on reality and fail to recognize the things that should truly matter in your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think its more unstable that he actually thinks he's connected to the young anymore... that ship sailed years ago. his work hasn't gained much of any following outside of die hard AVA fans... thats literally it. We're talking maybe a couple of thousand kids at most. and I honestly think thats reaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think the "market this to young adults" thing is because in his deluded mind, he is in on a secret project to slowly and safely warm up the public to the idea that alien life is real and has been covered up forever. The way he's explained it is that it would cause mass hysteria to just dump the full truth on everyone all at once, so his part of the project is just introducing the ideas within fictional works at first. So to follow that logic, after his half truth/half fiction novels and documentaries and comics and movies come out and are big successes, young generations will be more open to the "truth" because they've been interested and exposed to the ideas via entertainment already. They won't be as likely to freak out because the ideas are plausible to them and are already a part of their everyday way of thinking. To be clear, I think this is all truly nuts and sad, but I THINK that is how he views his role in all of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I've actually been in Tom's position where I've tried to get someone's interest, wrote really long detailed emails and get back "ok" or nothing at all. But at least I figured out one email in that they weren't interested, Tom can't seem to get the memo, nor does he seem to understand that Podesta has better things to do than to deal with bullshit. But Tom continues and continues and makes himself look like more of a fool with his name dropping. You can start to see desperation set in by the last email in the first post that was made. Tom is getting nothing but rejection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beethoven Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think you are all missing the diagnostic here, seeing as we're all part time doctors now. He's the type, love the guy to death for prime blink days aside, who is so insecure and never been able to get past it. First, he got insecure about his hair style..simple, not much harm. Then he got insecure about Blink being too fun and childish (which was their utter genius that he pioneered in the first place...so dumb) and tried to make Blink edgy and heavier (yes untitled was a stroke of artistic genius but it was the death if blink). Then he got insecure about his edginess being considered emo and started making his edginess space rock music. Then he got insecure about not being that great at guitar and started fucking up his guitar tone to make it seem more artistic and talented of a writer. Etc, etc, ever ending cycle. Now we're just in the phase of him being so insecure about even being 'solely a muciscian' for a living he's trying to change the world in his mind. I respect that he's about challenging himself, but it comes to a point where it's more insecurity with how you're viewed from others. Now he's all insecure that he's not an 'important' insider politician type like Podesta and is trying to rid his musician only label. Shitting on everything you've done to pretend your something more isn't challenging yourself it's becoming just insecurity over stupid shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Nshesaid said: I think you are all missing the diagnostic here, seeing as we're all part time doctors now. He's the type, love the guy to death for prime blink days aside, who is so insecure and never been able to get past it. First, he got insecure about his hair style..simple, not much harm. Then he got insecure about Blink being too fun and childish (which was their utter genius that he pioneered in the first place...so dumb) and tried to make Blink edgy and heavier (yes untitled was a stroke of artistic genius but it was the death if blink). Then he got insecure about his edginess being considered emo and started making his edginess space rock music. Then he got insecure about not being that great at guitar and started fucking up his guitar tone to make it seem more artistic and talented of a writer. Etc, etc, ever ending cycle. Now we're just in the phase of him being so insecure about even being 'solely a muciscian' for a living he's trying to change the world in his mind. I respect that he's about challenging himself, but it comes to a point where it's more insecurity with how you're viewed from others. Now he's all insecure that he's not an 'important' insider politician type like Podesta and is trying to rid his musician only label. Shitting on everything you've done to pretend your something more isn't challenging yourself it's becoming just insecurity over stupid shit. almost the same idea about what i wrote about his identity. he changes himself every 5 years or into a completely different person. he doesn't know who the hell he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IblinkfanA Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2085656/blink-182-star-tom-delonge-poses-with-hillary-clintons-campaign-boss-john-podesta-in-a-photo-which-is-sure-to-send-ufo-believers-into-a-frenzy/ I'm lost. I haven't been following the forum much, but the recent talks have me confused. It seems as though JP is just ignoring Tom? The posted article has them in a photo together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boring.........Alright Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Based on the article they met in January and the emails Are from Feburary. So maybe they met and podesta figured it wasn't worth his time or podestas responses to tom weren't leaked. Idk man the whole thing is hard to follow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisa Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Being that famous at a very young age doesn't turn well for a lot of people; they don't know how to handle their life and they lose touch with reality. Tom is always looking for greater things because he has achieved them with blink but it's very hard to replicate something like that. It seems that it's the only thing he wants. He says his books are going to be even more influencial than Harry Potter, AVA was supposed to change the world and the aim his secret projects is to open people's eyes on everything.. Mark and Travis were lucky enough to grew up while Tom is still a child at heart and he will always be delusioned, he would do anything to detach himself from the things he perceives as childish, but he does that acting like a stubborn child. He has the money to do whatever he wants, but he's making more mistakes than anything, I think he doesn't have anyone who sets boundaries for him. And that's what he needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Ghent Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 hours ago, IblinkfanA said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2085656/blink-182-star-tom-delonge-poses-with-hillary-clintons-campaign-boss-john-podesta-in-a-photo-which-is-sure-to-send-ufo-believers-into-a-frenzy/ I'm lost. I haven't been following the forum much, but the recent talks have me confused. It seems as though JP is just ignoring Tom? The posted article has them in a photo together. Podesta is a well known UFO fanatic...Tom got an interview with him for his UFO documentary (it was shown in the trailer), then probably got his e-mail and started pestering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I love Tom but I definitely think he's crazy and has no idea who he really is or what he is doing. I'm not really worried about him though, he seems to have a pretty good family and nothing makes me think he needs professional help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beethoven Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Tom's always been a goofy dude. That's why he was so awesome. Not caring about Blink and the ego thing reallt are only what put me off to him now personally. I still like that he's a crazy dude. Everyone's crazy in their own way, Tom just doesn't hide it whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedge00 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 13 hours ago, Nshesaid said: Then he got insecure about Blink being too fun and childish (which was their utter genius that he pioneered in the first place...so dumb) and tried to make Blink edgy and heavier (yes untitled was a stroke of artistic genius but it was the death if blink). Then he got insecure about his edginess being considered emo and started making his edginess space rock music. Then he got insecure about not being that great at guitar and started fucking up his guitar tone to make it seem more artistic and talented of a writer. Devils advocate: This could simply be him wanting to experiment, and thus change his sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 31/10/2016 at 3:38 PM, Clarke said: I still remember emailing ToTheStars asking if Tom was okay, only to be hit back with "Hi Clarke -Tom is fine." Even if you solely judge the emotional state of Tom right now, that's enough to see that something's probably not right. While I support him living his own lifestyle, I think he really needs help. I think his problem is absolutely infringing on his life, to the point where it's causing him to do things he'd otherwise seriously not do. Exactly. I agree with those who say that we're not doctors. Of course we're not. So if I have to talk seriously, I won't say Tom has mental issues. But it's pretty obvious, by the way he acts (which is what define us at the end: acts), that he's just not ok. I don't know on what level, I don't now on what areas, but he's just going nuts. The main fact? Tons of spoken/written bullshit just promising shit which turns into nothing or, in the best case, into fiction novels or buthcered projects. 22 hours ago, Kay said: I think its more unstable that he actually thinks he's connected to the young anymore... that ship sailed years ago. his work hasn't gained much of any following outside of die hard AVA fans... thats literally it. We're talking maybe a couple of thousand kids at most. and I honestly think thats reaching. Nailed it. And there's something that just seems contradictory as hell. First, he was like oriented to adult people. He wanted to take distance from the "naked dude which appeared on a music video and told dick jokes", but he's still selling his products as things targetted for "kids". Da hell, Tom? It's pretty obvious he just don't have a specific clue of what he wants to do exactly. He's just trying to spot things randomly. The problem here is that he's a multimillionaire who can waste tons of money in whatever he wants. But he he had much less money he just should focus and give all his energy to one unique thing. The need for a living just help you to stay focused and set prioirities. Just what he did when blink started. And also, one last thing. Does he think, honestly, that he's gonna have government "secrets" on his hands just to spread them all for the "kids"? I mean, of course. He only has to look to those who filtered or revealed that kind of materials, like Assange or Snowden. I mean, come on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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