Ghent Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, Clarke said: I've said this before many times, but I've always found tom to oftentimes be the person that digs up great ideas and Mark's typically been the one to control them from getting out of hand. For example, look at the song "Disaster". It's easy to imagine how this could have been a long AvA song. Sick idea though, which I feel that Mark was able to save Yeah, but the problem is it requires more than just cropping to make some of Tom's songs actually good. There plenty of examples on Neighborhoods and DED of songs that are enjoyable, but really needed some collaboration and outside opinion to take to the next level. Hard to do that with no producer, e-mailing back and forth... Mark salvaged what he could and left us with some pretty good music, but in the end was missing the spark they needed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I left it all behind in the dead of last winter I left it all behind but the question still lingers So long, forgotten friends, no, you don't know the difference Between love and submission, and I'm not that obedient 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, decisions said: I think California made me like the Chasing Shadows EP lol...Voyager and Overload are pretty tight. Double checked to make sure I still disliked Whisper, and yes it is still bad. Er... not sure what kind of logic that is. That new Star Trek movie really made me like that last Star Wars movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordidanen95 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I truly believe tom is an amazing songwriter, ofcourse he has repeated himself a lot..but he has amazing songs under his name i think. the thing is....i dont get why he wants blink to sound so spacey and full of delay guitars. let blink be blink.....blink has already 2 great sides that work both.....why can't he just enjoy that (the poppunk summer side, and the darker more progressive side). why cant he just love those aspects of blink. I mean i played in a indierock band for a few years (my roots are more american sounding rock/punk/pop bands but i enjoy the music i've made with my band.....i would never write indiepop/indierock songs on my own.....but i understood what the band was about and what my role was and i changed up my playing and sound.....it's not 100% me, but i enjoyed the shit out of it... how is being the guitarist/singer/founding member of blink not enough for him that he wants to do books instead....i just don't get it (tom working with a producer would actually be really good at this point in his life) tom really needs someone that tells him: this is where you shine, but that other thing...it doesn't work, also tom...could you say the word Voice or Time the way its supposed to be pronounced) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurtSampson Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 13 hours ago, jordidanen95 said: the chorus is what i imagined the 2006 blink record to be....if things went very different than they did sometimes i imagine a different timeline where blink never broke up and only got more serious with experimenting in the studio. untitled felt like a real stepping stone...but till this day we don't have a record that picks up where untitled left off. this sounds pointless but that could have been the best blink record period just imagine if it was Tom and Mark trading off in the verses yummm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutup89 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, jordidanen95 said: I truly believe tom is an amazing songwriter, ofcourse he has repeated himself a lot..but he has amazing songs under his name i think. the thing is....i dont get why he wants blink to sound so spacey and full of delay guitars. let blink be blink.....blink has already 2 great sides that work both.....why can't he just enjoy that (the poppunk summer side, and the darker more progressive side). why cant he just love those aspects of blink. I mean i played in a indierock band for a few years (my roots are more american sounding rock/punk/pop bands but i enjoy the music i've made with my band.....i would never write indiepop/indierock songs on my own.....but i understood what the band was about and what my role was and i changed up my playing and sound.....it's not 100% me, but i enjoyed the shit out of it... how is being the guitarist/singer/founding member of blink not enough for him that he wants to do books instead....i just don't get it (tom working with a producer would actually be really good at this point in his life) tom really needs someone that tells him: this is where you shine, but that other thing...it doesn't work, also tom...could you say the word Voice or Time the way its supposed to be pronounced) and 'head', don't forget 'head' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decisions Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, M!ke said: Er... not sure what kind of logic that is. That new Star Trek movie really made me like that last Star Wars movie. Well when that came out I thought it was all mediocre and boring, I was all ready for this supergroup trio to come in and be way better than anything in the realm of AVA, and then California came out and it was just awful. So then I revisited CS and think it's a decent listen, the fact that it doesn't sound like all the other modern pop-punk bands is something that I'm a bit more appreciative of now. Also I'm not sure what you're logic is, if you watched one sci-fi movie and thought it lacked X, Y, and Z that another sci-fi that came out before had, you might appreciate that other movie more after having seen the new one. Not sure what's so illogical there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSandt Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Well as far as I'm concerned, AvA along with Chasing Shadows has sunk only deeper into irrelevance post California. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, _Kyle_ said: Oh yeah, and Mark and Travis both agreed with a break after they argued about it. He just left. I still think he wanted to control blink and he couldn't. I still think that's what the last break up was about too. He can't control Travis and Mark, so he bails. Oh course that is what it was and it started way earlier, around TOYPAJ, and especially with BCR. Tom began to think he was the brains behind the band, his head got really big and his drug intake made it worse. Tom was certain he could make it on his own and do it even better than Blink did. Worst yet, Rick Devoe fed off his bullshit and encouraged him. So did the tombots. By 2005, he was fucked in the head, but the entire thing was a massive failure, so he bit the bullet and went back to Blink only for money to fund his other stuff and in the hopes he could eventually take control. But his side shit continued to fail, and he never could gain the control he wanted. So again he broke off. Now he's even more fucked up, his shit is even more of a failure, and now a Blink reunion is not an option for him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 it'll be interesting to see where he goes from here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I love that this album is doing so well (#1 on some Billboards) without Tom. The moment they get rid of his toxic attitude and hire a real producer and bam, they're a successful pop punk band again. Good riddance. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decisions Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 lol at Tom's most recent Instagram post. Nice DeLongeion of grandeur there. "Oh guys I've been given the gift to tell you about these huge government secrets that will change the way the world operates, despite having no previous ties to them at all! It's all in my new 6-part book series!" Wish he would've just stuck to music. New Blink, new Alkaline Trio, it would've been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy030 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 LOL a 6 part book series? Yet "i'm talking to travis about touring and recording" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Quote I landed on the Tarmac, walked off the plane, and met a smart, fit man in his 60's. Never seen a Multi-Star General before.. Let alone talked to one. He led me to a table in the back of a large room. He leaned across the table and said "It was the Cold War, and we lived under the very real threat of Nuclear War every day... And somewhere in those years...We found a life-form." I said, "Sir, I need help telling young adults this story..." He said, "What do you need?"...."Advisors", I responded. "I need high-ranking Advisors in the Military, Intelligence and DOD to help guide me." So- I was given 10 Advisors, each with knowledge in different areas that pertain to UFOs and the very real National Security issues associated with them. I do wish the press would ask me about this, rather than write stupid headlines about Aliens... I have been given a gift, the ability to tell you all our biggest secret. It will come in books, feature films and documentaries. It's called SEKRET MACHINES. The first Novel is AVAILABLE at AMAZON and ToTheStars.Media I wish he would make all of this post into a song and the these would be the lyrics. My fat heart would explode from laughter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 of course he used an image of area 51, or course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedge00 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, decisions said: 6-part book series wow. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsov Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 "I have been given a gift...." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The messiah has returned!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 LMAO! What a train wreck, even the tabloids couldn't make shit up this good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's like the best dream to have Where every thing is not so bad Every tear is so alone Like God himself is coming home to say I, I can do anything If you want me here And I can fix any thing If you let me near Where are those secrets now That you're too scared to tell I'd whisper them all aloud So you can hear yourself I love he totally wrote this about himself. go tom go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Watcher Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 To be fair, he had been given a gift, but then he shit all over it so it was regifted to Matt Skiba. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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