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Here's an actual conversation between Mark and Tom from when things were going bad:    

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I don’t think he was in Iconoclasts, just mentioned playing with them in that scene w/blink IIRC. Yeah I was quite surprised by the AVA stuff... how he bowed out and never heard a word from Tom (though I thought he showed up at a TDW session or two?), Adam from H20 trying out for AVA twice.
 

It was interesting to hear him talk about how Tom gets a riff and just sticks with it until it’s a song, and how if there are 10 songs on the album - that’s what he had. I was a bit surprised he wasn’t on the upcoming AVA album, though said he’s involved? 

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14 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said:

I don’t think he was in Iconoclasts, just mentioned playing with them in that scene w/blink IIRC. Yeah I was quite surprised by the AVA stuff... how he bowed out and never heard a word from Tom (though I thought he showed up at a TDW session or two?), Adam from H20 trying out for AVA twice.
 

It was interesting to hear him talk about how Tom gets a riff and just sticks with it until it’s a song, and how if there are 10 songs on the album - that’s what he had. I was a bit surprised he wasn’t on the upcoming AVA album, though said he’s involved? 

Nah they have said that cheerleader thing earlier in album process too so that wasn’t any new information. 
 

He was definitely at some sessions early on before bowing out from what I can remember
 

But that thing he said about Ryan “losing his ways” is more that we’ve ever gotten to date about what happened right? 

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14 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said:

and how if there are 10 songs on the album - that’s what he had.

So is he saying here that for this new album only 10 songs were written total and that’s what’s on the album rather than they just picked the 10 best from all the songs written? Sorry, don’t have time to listen right now and get the context here.

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5 minutes ago, Russel Coight said:

So is he saying here that for this new album only 10 songs were written total and that’s what’s on the album rather than they just picked the 10 best from all the songs written? Sorry, don’t have time to listen right now and get the context here.

It wasn’t in direct relation to the new album but he was talking about Tom’s songwriting for albums in general, and how he takes his time basically.

It really is a good listen, you can probably skip the first ~half to get to BCR/early AVA. Newer AVA towards the end.

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18 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said:

It wasn’t in direct relation to the new album but he was talking about Tom’s songwriting for albums in general, and how he takes his time basically.

It really is a good listen, you can probably skip the first ~half to get to BCR/early AVA. Newer AVA towards the end.

Yeah sweet. Will check it out later.

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8 hours ago, NotNow said:

Time stamp for Ava talk? I don’t have time to listen to 90 minutes of small talk

Edit: he starts talking about AVA at the 66 minute mark 

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i didn't get a prisoner vibe. he just wants the touring money and accepts the fact the he'll never have any real creative involvement. he's the matt skiba of ava.

what i did find interesting, but not surprising, was the low key revelation that nobody in the band (past and present) are really friends at all. it doesn't sound as if he liked matt watchter. he makes it clear that "tom had a boner for him" but he was really opposed to it and wanted his friend from H2O to join (twice). then, he says after that era things got even weirder so that's why he left. 

i also think it's safe to assume ryan sinn was kicked out either due to jackass behavior on tour or maybe he started some shit with tom about not having a say in anything. i recall him being super pissed because he was told he could run the army of angels fan club, that people paid for, and then absolutely nothing came of it and kids got ripped off.

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doesn't sound like you listened to the whole thing. he sounds super happy about where he's at with his business (three coffee shops) and ava is just extra money whenever he wants to be a part of it. but since he has very little involvement, he doesn't have much to say about the band and it probably isn't his place to reveal certain things. 

despite all of this, i thought he said plenty of things involving the band's politics that tom would actually be pissed about. 

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Lol, poor David. All he wants to say is that AVA has been trash from the start, but he can't burn the bridge because he likes the touring money. Don't blame him

 

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22 minutes ago, wannabe corn dog said:

doesn't sound like you listened to the whole thing. he sounds super happy about where he's at with his business (three coffee shops) and ava is just extra money whenever he wants to be a part of it. but since he has very little involvement, he doesn't have much to say about the band and it probably isn't his place to reveal certain things. 

despite all of this, i thought he said plenty of things involving the band's politics that tom would actually be pissed about. 

Yeah he stammered a lot in general, not just about AVA. But I agree, if Tom had a gun to his head or he felt like he did, he wouldn’t have said some of the things he said.

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16 minutes ago, Ghent said:

Lol, poor David. All he wants to say is that AVA has been trash from the start, but he can't burn the bridge because he likes the touring money. Don't blame him

 

it's fun to watch you do the same #fanfiction bit you hate so much from blink criticizers

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It was interesting that Adam (H20) mentioned a really weird awkward vibe when he showed up to “try out” the 2nd time which from what I gather would’ve been right after Love 2 since he mentioned Ilan was there. Also a bit awkward when David mentioned the recent EPs and him not even knowing about them. 
 

He said he was interviewed recently (I suspect for the McKinnon doc) and they would ask him to go through certain eras and they weren’t particularly pleasant to revisit. Idk, AVA is Tom’s playground and the dudes been through a lot of band members lol. I’m happy for David with the James Coffee Co and life he’s built outside of music.

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1 minute ago, ye. said:

it's fun to watch you do the same #fanfiction bit you hate so much from blink criticizers

Fan fiction? He literally says he did nothing in the band creatively, that it was mostly dysfunctional, and that Ilan is now writing everything.

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1 minute ago, Ghent said:

Fan fiction? He literally says he did nothing in the band creatively, that it was mostly dysfunctional, and that Ilan is now writing everything.


That's a nice pivot from "Lol, poor David. All he wants to say is that AVA has been trash from the start, but he can't burn the bridge because he likes the touring money. Don't blame him"

 

4 minutes ago, Ry-Bread said:

He said he was interviewed recently (I suspect for the McKinnon doc) and they would ask him to go through certain eras and they weren’t particularly pleasant to revisit. Idk, AVA is Tom’s playground and the dudes been through a lot of band members lol. I’m happy for David with the James Coffee Co and life he’s built outside of music.

it's seemed for some time that David really isn't that into being a musician, as he pretty much said himself in this podcast. I imagine if you're just being a sounding board for a somewhat small band that's not making you much, it's gonna feel pretty pointless after a while. And while we don't know anyone personally, Tom doesn't seem like the best friend; he's already all over the place creatively

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Just now, ye. said:


That's a nice pivot from "Lol, poor David. All he wants to say is that AVA has been trash from the start, but he can't burn the bridge because he likes the touring money. Don't blame him"

I mean he pretty much says as much. He had to escape the band to make money reliably as the band was dysfunctional. He was Tom's "cheerleader" and did nothing creatively

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