MassKirbycide Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Outrageous price notwithstanding, I listened to these when someone uploaded them to Youtube (before they got deleted, anyway), and I must say, Wolfpack Demo #2 is miles better than the final version of the song, IMO. It's a shame he brought the key down too, it's always fun to hear Tom try to shout out those high notes; the chorus reminds me a bit of his shouting chorus in Feeling This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe-Amy Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I love wolfpack demo #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassKirbycide Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I personally prefer the second just because it's generally more powerful instrumentally, but both of them are so much better than the final release that I really wonder what made Tom decide to change it up so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe-Amy Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I prefer the 2nd ones chorus vocals and the whole instrumentals but I love the 1st ones verses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statingdatruth Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Wolfpack 1 verses are like a complete rip off to that song here: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 On 5/6/2016 at 8:38 PM, Statingdatruth said: Wolfpack 1 verses are like a complete rip off to that song here: The original is by The Knife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 even the instrumentation is copied. tom plagiarist delonge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Well, shall we blame Ilan for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 i think the base ideas/demos are tom's own recordings. then ilan did the final versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Chips Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'm not surprised though, he started ripping off other artists after Love Starting with Saturday Love sounding like Video Killed the Radio Star in the chorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
013bam Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 listening through it right now, i actually really like some of these demo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statingdatruth Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Monkey Chips said: I'm not surprised though, he started ripping off other artists after Love Starting with Saturday Love sounding like Video Killed the Radio Star in the chorus. Sure, as he already copied his own songs, he needed new material. But I also like some of the demos. The production (or its lack of) sounds more natural, not as "compressed" like the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kyle_ Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Everything's Magic is really similar to Close to Me by the Cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Statingdatruth said: Sure, as he already copied his own songs, he needed new material. But I also like some of the demos. The production (or its lack of) sounds more natural, not as "compressed" like the album. yeah, the album versions sound like they're written by a mathematician. too precise, too boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus409 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Everything's Magic is really similar to Close to Me by the Cure. And similar to When I Was Young. Talk about copying your own songs. Still love both songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statingdatruth Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, platypus409 said: And similar to When I Was Young. Talk about copying your own songs. Still love both songs. Let's not forget the "citation" of Anthem Part 2. So let's put it together: drums: Close to me. Guitar in the verses/intro: Anthem Part II and the chorus: Dry your eyes. (it's the other way round, but still recycled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 6 hours ago, _Kyle_ said: Everything's Magic is really similar to Close to Me by the Cure. Instrumentally you can't argue how similar Everything's Magic is to Anthem Pt 2. Its like Tom wasn't even trying to hide is lack of originality on that one. I'm so much more forgiving of Snake Charmer blatantly having the same tune as The Machine, simply because the tune was almost certainly one of those blink demos in 2005 that Tom took over to Angels and Airwaves to make songs with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau5 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 To be honest, after listening to this Demo Pack I was actually surprised how much I enjoyed the tracks. It gave an interesting perspective of the song-writing process for Tom, and how much ilan really did contribute to the album. I found it really cool to listen to some of the tracks (and many that I really disliked) and see what sort of filtering the individual tracks went through. There's a lot of raw guitar-work and vocal work found in the tracks - something that's been incredibly lacking in all of Tom's releases post-2006. Examples that stood out for me was"Mercenaries Guitar Demo" (Never noticed the intro was separate tracks of Tom breathing/sighing into the microphone which probably got all the Tombots hot and heavy - but also reminded me of the experimentation we heard on blink's Self-Titled. Not to mention this was the first time I've ever heard Ilans voice so pronounced - they should have kept that)"The Wolfpack #1 Demo" (The highest I've ever heard Tom try and sing since...Dude Ranch? Not saying it sounds good - but was a surprise nonetheless. The verses also sound way better than what they ended up going with IMO. Wolfpack #2 Demo I think is miles better than the single-friendly Wolfpack they went with. Right down to the funny intro). "The Fighting Season Demo" (It made me think of Tom trying to copy the vocal-style of someone like Bjork lol) Now, don't get me wrong - I still find it completely ridiculous that the 'album' is being sold to fans. Tom is clearly looking for any and every way to profit what's left of his musicianship. But I did find this release a pleasant surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I'd really be impressed with Tom for wolfpack one musically / verses wise if it didn't sound nearly identical to the original version of heartbeats. I'd never heard the original and only heard the jose gonzalez version so I just thought the melody was similar but after hearing the knife version... damn, that would have been unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I keep listening to Bullets in the wind demos and recover. really like those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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