MSandt Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 You probably won't like this answer, but it depends on how hyperbolic you really think it is. Yes, transforming the industry is pretty unlikely, and that AVA would be the trigger for that even less likely, but he's not exactly saying that. He's saying this is where bands and art should go, and where it might. He's not saying it will, or that AVA is the reason it will happen, just that it's his idea of the future. But there's nothing "transformative" about his idea. You mentioned Star Wars, which is an example of a franchise that has many people "collaborate together on one project rather than everyone doing their own." You've got comic books, films, music and all kinds of junk that's not very different from the "deluxe" junk Tom is trying to sell on AvA.com. That he thinks the Poet project is bringing something new to the table is why people here are saying that he's either being delusional, bullshitting or simply doesn't know the meaning of some basic words in the English language. Whether or not any of these "experiments" actually work, they should be lent credibility if they are actually tried. They should be lent credibility if the ideas in practice actually matched Tom's hyperbole. Modlife wasn't a revolutionary "operating system" but simply a website template that even I could have coded over a few nights. That hurts credibility. Sure, we all want blink-182 back just as much as each other, but you ever think that you guys are just name-calling and schoolyard bullying just because you can't get what you want? I am ready to say that I think Love and all that stuff wasn't good at all and I would rather have blink, but how immature would it be to also call Tom a stupid, delusional, arrogant, greedy liar as a way to voice my frustrations about how I can't get a blink-182 album as soon as I want to have it? There are good, objective reasons to criticize Tom. Even people with no emotional ties whatsoever to blink would call him out on his bullshit. As I said before, if Tom showed blink the respect the band deserves and cut back on his hyperbole, people would view AvA more positively, so it's not a matter of people hating Tom just because he's in AvA, but rather because of his behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Tom saying that Wolfpack song is the best song he's ever written is about as delusional as it gets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsov Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 What is his best song then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dildo69er Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 just about done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSandt Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 The great, sad irony here is that in ten years Fuck a Dog will still be remembered more fondly than Wolfpack. Tom comes off as desperately trying to change that simple fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 What is his best song then?You think Wolfpack is his best song ever? I could name about 50 better candidates than that turd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsov Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 No, I dont think The Wolfpack is even in his top 30. If you asked Tom what was the greatest song he has ever written I think he would probably say Violence (he'd actually probably say something off of whisper cause he's a jackass). Violence shits all over The Wolfpack. For Tom to compare The Wolfpack to anything off of ST is almost sacrilege. Again, the best thing that can come out of this "complete left turn" for AVA is that it gets Tom's creative juices flowing for blink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I've always said I'd be fine with AVA if he channeled it into blink..he just hasn't done that so far. He rushes to get blink out of the way to get back to releasing shit 10% of his fans care about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 God, we really do go in fucking circles when there is no actual Blink news to talk about. This is what happens when Tom decides to write shitty music in a band barely anyone cares about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solace Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Tom saying that Wolfpack song is the best song he's ever written is about as delusional as it gets. Didn't he say that Tunnels was the best song on the album? Not Wolfpack. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I really do wonder what Tom thinks his best song ever is. Not counting anything coming out on Dream Walker because obviously he'll always say his upcoming stuff is his best. I do remember him saying a long time ago on a Modcam that he loved Violence and I Miss You, but I don't remember him calling them his "favorite." I think I remember Mark saying (even since the reunion if I'm not mistaken) that Baby, Come On is his favorite song he's ever written. Does anyone remember that? Or did I dream that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsov Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yeah, mark said baby come on was the best song he has ever written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Didn't he say that Tunnels was the best song on the album? Not Wolfpack. Right?Maybe so..I just figured his first single would be the song he liked the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knapppers Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Good post by supervic. I really feel like most of the hate tom gets for ava is that its preventing blink. They dont look at it objectively. They look at as tom from blink releasing music that doesnt sound like blink and they dont want that so theyre gonna not like it.Also why wouldnt he say its his favourite song hes ever written? Its brand new, obviously hes going to be in love with it or else he probably wouldnt be putting it out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 blink-182 changed their FB profile picture. Reunion confirmed. ... wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkarrow Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Same holiday sweater as last year except instead of saying "2013" it says "2014." Disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imateapot Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 rehashed holiday themed merch up. the dead horse just keeps spitting out money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 He said: On this project, everything started rolling together faster and faster, and it’s actually all happening! It’s very exciting and if it starts to work, it could be transformative for the music and film industry in the sense that people collaborate together on one project rather than everyone doing their own. I think that’s where the arts can go over the next few years. http://www.purevolume.com/news/The-PV-QA-Tom-DeLonge-Angels-And-Airwaves-Interview-2014 Okay, he didn't say "it will be" but it's the same hyperbolic bs we've been hearing since WDNTW. It's ridiculous. He's saying like the fact of making a film, a soundtrack and a book is revolutionary. Hello Tom, this has been like that on the cinema industry for DECADES. A novel transformed into a movie which has a soundtrack. Briiiiiiiiiiilliant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decisions Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 That quote is grandiose because it simply doesn't make any sense. How the hell is a collaborative art project revolutionary? Some videogames have CGI studios, musical composers, programmers, graphical designers, authors for a companion book, and teams of art directors behind them. Films have soundtracks. What is he even saying? "in the sense that people collaborate together on one project rather than everyone doing their own." Maybe he means specifically for the music industry. But then I guess it would make even less sense considering he first released a "collaborative project" in May 1993. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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