thongrider Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 11 hours ago, NotNow said: Top 20 isn’t exactly high in mainstream music. There’s tons of bands that hit top 20 the first week of their release and are obscure bands. How many albums on labels actually get releases every week? It’s not that many. I guess that depends on how one defines "obscure". There are lots of huge bands that hardly made the top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongrider Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 11 hours ago, boxelder said: first week sales + bundles goose these numbers considerably. for blink heavily — i think both recent efforts debuted high and then dropped to a ridiculous low, then fell off entirely They started debuting high in the early 2000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindemulder Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 AK3 has alway had a huge integrity. Figured out how to make a proper punkrock song early on and then developed on that for 20 years. They were never distined to break through into the mainstream and I dont see them doing it at this point. I enjoy it equally as much as blink, but AK3 has a much more defined fanbase where blink is pretty much for everyone. Its not everyone who seeks out the fame, for some people its just about playing music that you like and then maybe live off of it if you're fortunate enough. What Im saying is fuck AK3 is a great band. Skiba must be in a tough situation to decide where he wants to put his energy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Alkaline Trio are more of a cult band IMO. Probably irrelevant to mainstream music but that's not a bad thing, seeing as most mainstream music these days is trash. They're definitely an important band in the pop punk/punk rock genre and I'd argue that they're influential as well. Most fans of pop punk and punk rock like them. And reaching the top 20 is very impressive. Maybe not if you're looking at it from a mainstream point of view but there's so many unsigned bands or local bands that'd kill to reach the scale, size and following of Alkaline Trio. They've worked pretty fucking hard to get where they are. Let's not act like members of that band are playing in a club for 150 people is a bad thing either. That's pretty fucking cool IMO. We'd all love to be doing that. But they've definitely got a decent following. Where I live is a completely dead end town in UK and is pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Not many people have even heard of my town. Yet i've heard Alkaline Trio have songs like Mercy Me and This Addiction get played in rock bars and I've seen people wear jackets with their logo on it. i'd love to have a following like that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgod Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lindemulder said: AK3 has alway had a huge integrity. Figured out how to make a proper punkrock song early on and then developed on that for 20 years. They were never distined to break through into the mainstream and I dont see them doing it at this point. I enjoy it equally as much as blink, but AK3 has a much more defined fanbase where blink is pretty much for everyone. Its not everyone who seeks out the fame, for some people its just about playing music that you like and then maybe live off of it if you're fortunate enough. What Im saying is fuck AK3 is a great band. Skiba must be in a tough situation to decide where he wants to put his energy Agree with what you said but it’s pretty easy for him what to choose. Blink because of the money. I can’t believe that he is having more fun doing blink compared to Trio. But the paychecks are a different thing. Can’t blame him for that. It’s understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindemulder Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I wondered if I should have made it clear that I meant it excluding the money. Thats important. But lets not forget that Skiba has been doing all kinds of different stuff. Heavens, theHELL and also AK3 has a pretty diversive catalog aswell. On top of that he and Hoppus always wanted to work together, and even though Grant in AK3 is killer, Barker is just on another level. From Skibas perspective they're interesting people to work with. I'd still say it must be a tough choice for him, even when not considering the tons of cash he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 12 hours ago, Lindemulder said: From Skibas perspective they're interesting people to work with. that's what makes it so puzzling that he puts forth barely any effort with them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, daveyjones said: that's what makes it so puzzling that he puts forth barely any effort with them. Citation needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Anyone ready to declare NINE a great blink album? It’s time to ball up and say it. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ghent said: Anyone ready to declare NINE a great blink album? It’s time to ball up and say it. Been saying it since it came out tbf. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghent said: Anyone ready to declare NINE a great blink album? It’s time to ball up and say it. Better than Neighborhoods, California, TOYPAJ and Cheshire I think! Better than any AVA album. I don't rate it as much as the smiley face album, Enema, Dude Ranch, +44 or BCR though. There's still a couple of iffy songs whereas I feel like those albums are perfect from start to finish. It's definitely not far from them though! Way more consistent than the other blink work IMO. Awesome album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nosferatu said: Better than Neighborhoods, California, TOYPAJ and Cheshire I think! Better than any AVA album. I don't rate it as much as the smiley face album, Enema, Dude Ranch, +44 or BCR though. There's still a couple of iffy songs whereas I feel like those albums are perfect from start to finish. It's definitely not far from them though! Way more consistent than the other blink work IMO. Awesome album. I agree with the majority of this. Sometimes neighbourhoods hits me in a way that makes me like it more but Nine as an album is definitely put together superior to neighbourhoods. I’d say my favourite couple of songs are better than my favs off nine but only just but as albums nine is the clear winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 It's absolute dog shit. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentytwenty Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Ghent said: Anyone ready to declare NINE a great blink album? It’s time to ball up and say it. I've been saying it since it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kay said: It's absolute dog shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bagel Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I wish I could get into Nine. IDK if I'm being lazy but I just find it hard to distinguish between which song is which. I remember Heaven's massive chorus, The First Time being a lot of fun, BIOMY really grew on me. Happy Days is okay, I like it when Mark explores Mental Health. However, Hungover You, I Really Wish I Hated You, Remember To Forget Me and On Some Emo Shit . I genuinely can't remember which is which. They just don't seem distinct to me, musically or lyrically 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 It's better than California and California Deluxe! I think there are several songs on Nine that live up to the Blink name in my opinion (First Time, Heaven, Pin The Grenade), whereas between Cali and Deluxe the only song I ever really think about is Bored To Death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Happy days is one of the boringest songs mark has ever been apart of. Apart from that Nine is amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bagel Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 @Champ182 shit I forgot about Pin The Grenade, that chorus is catchy as fuck. @Russel Coight Yeah it's kind of lazy in terms of songwriting, plus he already wrote one of the best songs concerning mental health that's out there. I think I've just got a soft spot for it because of the sentiment and the little video they put together. It's weird, I could really differentiate the Cali Deluxe songs, which I thought were fucking great. My brain just isn't computing Nine. What's the 3 strongest songs on there for you Russ? I'll try and digest em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindemulder Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 NINE is killer. Been in love with it since it came out. I dont think Happy Days is bad. Typically I will skip it, but I like the sentiment and I think its good in its own right. It more a queston of being in the right mood for it I guess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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