Russel Coight Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghent said: MH 85203958203 is a great tune. That was done in the crop of good songs they finished writing together at the end of the process You sure? Doesn’t the name come from the protools session that was being shared between them? I don’t think a song being worked on together in a studio would be named with an individuals initials/date they worked on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worst poster here Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Russel Coight said: You sure? Doesn’t the name come from the protools session that was being shared between them? I don’t think a song being worked on together in a studio would be named with an individuals initials/date they worked on it. The guitar is also just some generic power chords thrown together. I realize Tom relies on power chords, but not like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Pretty positive that was a Mark only song. It’s so boring, a good producer would have either cut that or completely changed most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCuomo Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 The track is notable for being recorded without DeLonge's involvement, with Hoppus recording all of the guitars in addition to his usual bass and vocals. From Wiki. I can't find the link, but I definitely remember that being the case when an article came out with the band giving a couple sentences about each song 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 That song is just ok, it sounds like a decently promising demo at best, but that's Tom's fault not Mark's. A classic Tom riff would do that song wonders, if only he could've been bothered to work on the damn album haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCuomo Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Champ182 said: That song is just ok, it sounds like a decently promising demo at best, but that's Tom's fault not Mark's. A classic Tom riff would do that song wonders, if only he could've been bothered to work on the damn album haha. Worst Tom-era song from Cheshire Cat and on. Its soooo boring 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Russel Coight said: You sure? Doesn’t the name come from the protools session that was being shared between them? I don’t think a song being worked on together in a studio would be named with an individuals initials/date they worked on it. No I’m not sure on it at all. Had it in my mind that it was a part of that group. Actually makes more sense that it wasn’t with that name Either way I like the song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghent said: No I’m not sure on it at all. Had it in my mind that it was a part of that group. Actually makes more sense that it wasn’t with that name Either way I like the song In fact, only four songs on Neighborhoods were written as a group: "After Midnight," "Kaleidoscope," "Wishing Well" and "MH 4.18.2011." https://www.altpress.com/blink_182_neighborhoods/ Well fuck me. I guess you were right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 I really like MH tbh, people love to hate on it but I’ve always dug it. The production isn’t great and I agree a good riff would’ve done wonders but I love the chorus. The main low point is that stupid fucking helicopter line. I love the vibe of it though and the verses are super fun. its a good +44 song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient #48273 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Russel Coight said: In fact, only four songs on Neighborhoods were written as a group: "After Midnight," "Kaleidoscope," "Wishing Well" and "MH 4.18.2011." https://www.altpress.com/blink_182_neighborhoods/ Well fuck me. I guess you were right. Wow. Maybe Tom was physically there, but he clearly didn't contribute anything. He was probably scrolling through his phone the whole time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxelder Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 i like MH123456789! it's a good tune. 1 hour ago, NeverOliver said: The track is notable for being recorded without DeLonge's involvement, with Hoppus recording all of the guitars in addition to his usual bass and vocals. ha! i wrote that, like ten years ago when i wrote the neighborhoods article. that's definitely source to some sort of magazine interview then (kerrang? alt press?), so it's legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Coight Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said: Wow. Maybe Tom was physically there, but he clearly didn't contribute anything. He was probably scrolling through his phone the whole time. Yeah I’m shocked. The song is so Mark it’s not funny. I’m sure Tom had fuck all to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Russel Coight said: Yeah I’m shocked. The song is so Mark it’s not funny. I’m sure Tom had fuck all to do with it. The strumming of the guitar doesn’t sound like Tom. Sounds like Mark did in plus 44. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Speedo said: The strumming of the guitar doesn’t sound like Tom. Sounds like Mark did in plus 44. Same goes for kaleidoscope tbh, just doesn’t sound like his style at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCuomo Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Chris Holmes interview with Propertyofzack So for example one way we worked was, if Mark had an idea and we had a tempo and key we liked, rather than send a quick demo we could get the keeper bass or guitar sounds and really nail down the part we wanted before sending it to Tom. From there Tom would listen, if he heard something he wanted to change or play differently he would record it, send it back to us, ask us what we thought … from there Travis would play drums, and then the song would make the rounds again. This wasn’t always the exact sequence of events with who did what first, but that’s typically how it would flow. “Snake Charmer” and “MH 4.18.2011” were two that came from this way of working. Along with that, we worked on 4 or 5 ideas that started with everybody in the same room together. Those days were really fast paced, and the energy was crazy. We’d get a song structure, tempo, and key pretty much set, and then do a good demo version. At the end of the day we’d make notes on what to tweak, and then everybody would re-record their parts with the keeper sounds they wanted the next week at their own studio. To me this was more of what a normal pre-production would have been like. “After Midnight” and “Natives” came from this way of working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worst poster here Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Agreed. The tracks that Tom clearly wrote/played guitar on in NH are GOTDF, Natives, UAN, After Midnight, Snake Charmer, Wishing Well, This Is Home, Love is Dangerous, and Even if She Falls. I think the rest is Mark but I have no way to substantiate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bagel Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Yeah - I know nothing about music theory, but when you get familiar with someone's style - you can just, tell. Still can't be the power of them in a room, Natives. I also love that Travis called Tom up after hearing Ghost on The Dancefloor, it reminded him of DJ AM. Tom and Trav's friendship have little quirks and dimensions like that, I rate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 I remember when it was announced that Matt was joining the band that a lot of us (myself included) feared that it would no longer be blink and it would feel more like +44 with Matt Skiba. I don’t know why I was afraid of that because that actually sounds like a perfect band to me lol. I wish that’s what we actually got. No Heart To Speak Of and a couple NINE tracks kind of get close to feeling like that for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worst poster here Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheerios4u98 said: I remember when it was announced that Matt was joining the band that a lot of us (myself included) feared that it would no longer be blink and it would feel more like +44 with Matt Skiba. I don’t know why I was afraid of that because that actually sounds like a perfect band to me lol. I wish that’s what we actually got. No Heart To Speak Of and a couple NINE tracks kind of get close to feeling like that for me. If I were to make an album that best exemplifies that, it would be like: -Cynical -BTD -Los Angeles -No Future -San Diego -Hey I’m Sorry -Last Train Home -Long Lost Feeling -Heaven -Darkside -Black Rain -No Heart to Speak Of -On Some Emo Shit Those are the closest to +44 featuring Skiba IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M!ke Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Ghent said: MH 85203958203 is a great tune. That was done in the crop of good songs they finished writing together at the end of the process MH and This is Home are the weakest songs on that album by a large margin for me. Interestingly, when the album first launched, I also lumped in Wishing Well and Kaleidoscope with those 2 others songs as just a huge weak point in the album of songs that I had thought were trash as they all occur next to each other in the same part of the album. But Wishing Well slowly grew on me, to the point where I enjoy that song a lot. While Kaleidoscope I thought was nothing special at first, and then one day it clicked hard and I fell in love with it. It went seemingly overnight from being a very weak song to one of my all time favorite blink songs, can't really explain that one. I thought maybe the same would happen for MH and This Is Home as well, but it never really has. It's not like I hate them, but for me they're the low points of the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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