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4 minutes ago, Kay said:

How many times can they refer Simple Creatures as 'Trashy' ? 

I hate it. I try to give Mark the benefit of the doubt because I love the guy but he seriously continues to be this cringelord. Dare I say edgelord?

I have nothing against Simple Creatures at all but where do they get the idea everyone was waiting around in anticipation discussing what it was going to sound like?  It doesn't sound far off from what I expected.  Middle finger to our expectations what?  

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4 minutes ago, NJansaid said:

I hate it. I try to give Mark the benefit of the doubt because I love the guy but he seriously continues to be this cringelord. Dare I say edgelord?

I have nothing against Simple Creatures at all but where do they get the idea everyone was waiting around in anticipation discussing what it was going to sound like?  It doesn't sound far off from what I expected.  Middle finger to our expectations what?  

"You expected us to write simplistic earworms that don't remotely reflect our lives age or class with guitar lead music,  but we fooled you! We threw the guitars out! Take that! We're so rebellious in our recording mansion"

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1 minute ago, Kay said:

"You expected us to write simplistic earworms that don't remotely reflect our lives age or class with guitar lead music,  but we fooled you! We threw the guitars out! Take that! We're so rebellious in our recording mansion"

Mark- “And we’ll put na-na’s in our shit even though we know you’re sick of them”

Alex- “Yea take that!”

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1 hour ago, NJansaid said:

I hate it. I try to give Mark the benefit of the doubt because I love the guy but he seriously continues to be this cringelord. Dare I say edgelord?

I have nothing against Simple Creatures at all but where do they get the idea everyone was waiting around in anticipation discussing what it was going to sound like?  It doesn't sound far off from what I expected.  Middle finger to our expectations what?  

Don't you be using my pet name on other men, you bastard!

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1 hour ago, Margie Whipple's Rage said:

Don't you be using my pet name on other men, you bastard!

Not sure what else to call it.  I've felt this way ever since he started hyping this 'mischievious bunny' thing and tried playing this metally riff on Hearts All Gone.  Now giving the F-YOU to fans? 6/8, mischievous cartoon stuff, it all seems edgey for a 40 year old.

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So what I gather about mark and this whole simple creatures thing is: 

1. He was butt hurt that fans were hating on California.

2. He was sick of hearing people bitch about toms lack of musical and stage presence all over social media.

3. He was/is frustrated that he can’t write good music on his own anymore.

4. All these things culminated and contributed to his depression which led to the genesis of simple creatures.

...and his plan was to team up with/hire songwriters for his side project and for blink (again?!). and now he’s openly pissed at the fans. Real smooth. if TTS is toms mid life crisis this era is certainly marks.

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1 hour ago, NJansaid said:

Not sure what else to call it.  I've felt this way ever since he started hyping this 'mischievious bunny' thing and tried playing this metally riff on Hearts All Gone.  Now giving the F-YOU to fans? 6/8, mischievous cartoon stuff, it all seems edgey for a 40 year old.

I just wanted to mean more to you.

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24 minutes ago, Margie Whipple's Rage said:

I just wanted to mean more to you.

i know this is off topic, but it's kind of odd that margie only appeared in a single episode of the brady bunch.

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39 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

i know this is off topic, but it's kind of odd that margie only appeared in a single episode of the brady bunch.

I kind of like it. It isn't an easy reference. 

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On 3/7/2019 at 7:29 PM, Whales said:

Probably my favorite dlx track; makes me think about summer drives.

I like it too! 

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On 3/9/2019 at 7:24 PM, Patient #48273 said:

I've literally never met anyone who didn't understand that the ATST video was a parody. It's blatantly obvious. Now, there are people who lump them in together with the bands/artists in the videos they were making fun of because the song is poppy, the video got a lot of play on MTV, they're conventionally attractive guys and many fans during their heyday were pre-teen and teenaged girls. Anyone with an IQ above 60 could tell the ATST video is satire.

Yeah, even when I was 6-7 years old I found the video hilarious and knew it wasn't serious. I live in a weird town though. Blink isn't real rock to the musicians of this town, especially if they're over 35 years old haha. Yet they like Green Day. Never understood it.

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On 3/9/2019 at 11:40 PM, Kay said:

How many times can they refer Simple Creatures as 'Trashy' ? 

Simple Creatures is anything but trashy. Literally sounds like mainstream pop music. This is why I could never trust Mark's words when he's describing blink's upcoming album as experimental.

 Also hate these comments from Mark:

 We had some ideas and were going to work them out in the studio while we were recording, and that’s how we’ve stuck with it now. That’s transformed into having other writers in the studio throwing ideas around.

For me personally, I enjoy writing with other people because I’ve never felt like other artists diminished what I brought to the table. If I’m just left to my own devices, I just do the same similar tempo, rhythm and patterns. Having someone in the studio saying, “What about this?” and pushing me off-center is really valuable.

That's not blink to me. Blink should always be 3 guys. Or just solely Mark & Travis if they're gonna limit the 3rd guy like they have with Skiba. +44 is closer to being blink-182 than blink-182 under this method. This is why I've got low expectations on the new blink album. Like 6-7 other people that aren't Skiba, Mark & Travis involved in this "experimental" album. Don't get me wrong, having 6-7 people suggest ideas is fine. It was that way with the smiley face album but they were such little suggestions. These co-writers in the Feldman-blink era are just as involved in these songs as Mark, Skiba & Travis are it seems.

Even if I like the songs, it still won't feel like blink to me. I don't wanna hear a song that's 50% written by some jackass which happens to have Mark singing on it. I wanna hear a true down to earth Mark song, coming from Mark & entirely all Mark. With input from Travis & Skiba of course. And since Skiba is the guitarist and other vocalist, I also wanna hear a Skiba song, coming from Skiba & entirely all Skiba with Input from Mark & Travis of course.

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Ironic that he feels working with other people stops him from doing "the same similar tempo, rhythm and patterns" when California was literally them trying to sound like classic blink-182.

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41 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

Ironic that he feels working with other people stops him from doing "the same similar tempo, rhythm and patterns" when California was literally them trying to sound like classic blink-182.

The more we hear about this project the more I'm curious if it will be Mark's eventual pivot to "retiring" Blink sometime soon. In the past he talked about Blink as if it was the only thing he wanted to make music for. BCR was a huge bummer to him because he thought Blink should be the outlet for all of their music, any side project ideas he had were always in response to Tom dragging his feet or quitting.

Now he's got this new project that he seems really stoked about and talks about how it lifted him out of the doldrums of the past few years and how freeing it is to be able to write different styles of music with all different types of people, all after 3 years of having pop writers/producers filtering in and out of Blink already, it doesn't seem like he has the same view of Blink 182 that he used to and he might be itching to let that be his past and move onto new projects that don't come with the same expectations and/or baggage.

Just the fact that Blink has a new album supposedly coming out in the next 3-4 months and he's preempting it with a Simple Creatures release and tour and interviews about how this project took him out of a depression because it was such a great change in pace, it's unusual to me. He used to be very protective of Blink and very defensive of their legacy and how much it defines who he is as a person, now that seems to be a little different.

I could be totally wrong of course, maybe when the Blink album comes out he'll be just as energized as ever. But there's just a kind of strange vibe right now in my opinion. 

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It is pretty strange, but I try to keep in mind that this project came to life ~1 or 1.5 years ago. It seems like it was super casual and they just sorta had to figure out when to fit it in between ATL/BLINK "down time" with the release and a few shows. But yeah, even the whole "post tour depression"  is still kinda weird/sad to think of Mark being so down coming off a successful tour/comeback album. I guess it's weird being loved in every city with screaming fans for basically 2 years of solid touring, and then one day just sitting alone in your house with your kid grown up, being 45, going grey, etc. All while Trav/Matt have successful side gigs and plenty of fun...

I still think Blink is def the priority, but I see this as more of a "I have to get out of this house and create something" project with friends that turned into a band, as opposed to a way to expand artistically or rebel from Blink's sound. (a la BCR)

Either way, happy for him, and I really dig the 2 songs out so far and look forward to March 29th. I don't think they expect much out of it, neither are quitting their day jobs...lol

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Thought for sure there would be more debate on this answer in the article:

Mark, the California era of blink really saw the band enter a new, collaborative space with a lot of outside writers and voices contributing creatively. You hadn’t historically done that with blink. How have you embraced this collaborative approach to songwriting?

HOPPUS: The way music is written, recorded, distributed and consumed is completely different than when blink first started off. [Back then], it was just the three of us in a practice studio writing songs, throwing ideas around for weeks and months ahead of the recording of the album. When we got into the studio, it was a matter of taking what we’d written and translating it onto tape. Now, with tape machines being gone and the advent of Pro Tools and the availability of recording equipment, you can record an album in your garage. The way we wrote songs is completely different now. It started with the untitled record; we really didn’t have anything written when we went in to record. We had some ideas and were going to work them out in the studio while we were recording, and that’s how we’ve stuck with it now. That’s transformed into having other writers in the studio throwing ideas around.

For me personally, I enjoy writing with other people because I’ve never felt like other artists diminished what I brought to the table. If I’m just left to my own devices, I just do the same similar tempo, rhythm and patterns. Having someone in the studio saying, “What about this?” and pushing me off-center is really valuable.

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Having someone in the studio saying, “What about this?” and pushing me off-center is really valuable.

poor mark. tom was and still the only one who could pressure him to write something decent. nobody will ever come close. it's funny how mark talks about progression, when he never really wanted to do untitled styled record.  and he's still insecure about anything he writes. describing SC as a trashy and wierd music, lol - way to go Mark, already making excuses when nobody gives a fuck about SC after a week it's released. 

well, no tom around - mark doesn't have to try hard. everybody's else making it for him. what a joke. still can't believe he's so afraid to write whatever he wants, when there's nothing really to lose. 

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On 3/9/2019 at 5:40 PM, Kay said:

How many times can they refer Simple Creatures as 'Trashy' ? 

 

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On 3/5/2019 at 8:56 AM, _Kyle_ said:

Wow! I know Travis lives near the Kardashians, so they see each other quite a bit. Kourtney is the hottest of the 3 sisters! Travis may return to reality TV! 

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