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1 hour ago, ye. said:

Tom's lack of respect for grammar has always bothered me so much lol

Last line of the first verse in Rite of Spring is unnecessarily trash:

"And as I held my mom would start to cry
I swore ourselves a better life"

Im sorry

please forgive me

believe me if you could

believe me if you can , motherfucker

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11 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

Lyrics, poems, poetry etc, don't have to be grammatically correct, it's art. 

I think it was Max Martin who once said that you should never let the need for grammar ruin a song or something like that.

 

 

I can agree with that generally, but sometimes it's just lazy and the songwriter(s) could come up with an equally good (if not better) lyric that's grammatically correct if they actually put in a little effort.

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12 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said:

I can agree with that generally, but sometimes it's just lazy and the songwriter(s) could come up with an equally good (if not better) lyric that's grammatically correct if they actually put in a little effort.

Well, yes, but they may not end up where they desired, phonetically speaking.

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1 hour ago, twentytwenty said:

Lyrics, poems, poetry etc, don't have to be grammatically correct, it's art. 

I think it was Max Martin who once said that you should never let the need for grammar ruin a song or something like that.

 

 

But Tom hasn’t done it for artistic reasons, he’s done it because he’s kinda dumb.

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I don't know if any of you is familiar with Dan Ozzi, but he's been hyping his new book for a while now. It came out a couple of weeks ago, it's about punk rock/pop punk and major labels and there is a big chapter dedicated to blink in the book. 

I'm curious about what he has to say about them, I was thinking about getting the book and wondering if he reached out to either Mark or Tom for the chapter about blink. In that case, it would be even more interesting. 

Edit: if you don't know him, he co-wrote Laura Jane Grace's book ("Tranny") and he's been writing about punk rock/emo music for years online. 

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3 hours ago, twentytwenty said:

Lyrics, poems, poetry etc, don't have to be grammatically correct, it's art. 

I think it was Max Martin who once said that you should never let the need for grammar ruin a song or something like that.

 

 

3 hours ago, Patient #48273 said:

I can agree with that generally, but sometimes it's just lazy and the songwriter(s) could come up with an equally good (if not better) lyric that's grammatically correct if they actually put in a little effort.


I assume laziness with Tom simply because you can easily change some of his lines and it doesn't negatively affect the flow.

"And as I held my mom she'd start to cry
I swore for us better life"

this would work fine because Tom's lyrics are rarely smooth in the first place. Automatic is the most recent example of this; i like that song, but his delivery is so damn clunky

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18 minutes ago, ye. said:


I assume laziness with Tom simply because you can easily change some of his lines and it doesn't negatively affect the flow.

"And as I held my mom she'd start to cry
I swore for us better life"

this would work fine because Tom's lyrics are rarely smooth in the first place. Automatic is the most recent example of this; i like that song, but his delivery is so damn clunky

Yeah this is probably true.
 

What does he mean by “as I held”? I’ve never understood that line

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The other one I loathe is in Soul Survivor. Tom sings the word “always” normally in the first verse and then pronounces it “alweeeze” in the second verse. It’s the same word in the same part of the verse and he pronounces it totally differently, and it’s not even to rhyme or anything. I hate it with all my heart lol

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34 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

The other one I loathe is in Soul Survivor. Tom sings the word “always” normally in the first verse and then pronounces it “alweeeze” in the second verse. It’s the same word in the same part of the verse and he pronounces it totally differently, and it’s not even to rhyme or anything. I hate it with all my heart lol

He has so many little things like that, highly entertaining and infuriating.

“God invented chills” still makes me giggle. Bro if you believe in God then you believe he invented fucking everything, why do the chills matter?! 

Also wtf is a ferris wheel full of blue green eyes?!?

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2 hours ago, Kay said:

Also wtf is a ferris wheel full of blue green eyes?!?

I always took the line as Like a Ferris Wheel, (she was) full of blue green eyes.  Like to me the lyric is remembering a specific ferris wheel lit up in the night sky with blue and green lights, it's such a vivid image that I swear I've seen it myself before.  And he's likening her eyes to the same color and feeling he gets when he recollects that ferris wheel.  At least, that's how I've always interpreted that, so it never really felt off in any way to me.

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23 minutes ago, M!ke said:

I always took the line as Like a Ferris Wheel, (she was) full of blue green eyes.  Like to me the lyric is remembering a specific ferris wheel lit up in the night sky with blue and green lights, it's such a vivid image that I swear I've seen it myself before.  And he's likening her eyes to the same color and feeling he gets when he recollects that ferris wheel.  At least, that's how I've always interpreted that, so it never really felt off in any way to me.

This is where his lyrics just become subjective; I enjoy this line as well, as it's imagery that doesn't need to be clear in order to be effective, at least in my opinion.

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7 hours ago, M!ke said:

I always took the line as Like a Ferris Wheel, (she was) full of blue green eyes.  Like to me the lyric is remembering a specific ferris wheel lit up in the night sky with blue and green lights, it's such a vivid image that I swear I've seen it myself before.  And he's likening her eyes to the same color and feeling he gets when he recollects that ferris wheel.  At least, that's how I've always interpreted that, so it never really felt off in any way to me.

I see the ferris wheel buckets full of disembodied eyes. I can understand your interpretation but its a lot of work for it.

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