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Just now, FAPLORD said:

Yea but we were talking about Rick Devoe, their manager, and his take on it while listening. So surely he knew of Cheshire Cat buddy. Do better 

I forgot how pointless it is discussing with you.

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2 minutes ago, Here I am, chorus in a Can said:

I forgot how pointless it is discussing with you.

You literally make no sense though. We’re talking about Rick Devoe listening to TOYPAJ and for some reason you proclaim that there is only Enema and DR to compare it to (obviously a false statement)…then you wanna talk about casuals as if casuals would have ever owned DR in the first place…there is literally no cohesive thought to your words. I’m poking holes all in your little story just like your Mother did to my condom many years ago my son 

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10 minutes ago, FAPLORD said:

You literally make no sense though. We’re talking about Rick Devoe listening to TOYPAJ and for some reason you proclaim that there is only Enema and DR to compare it to (obviously a false statement)…then you wanna talk about casuals as is casuals would have ever owned DR in the first place…poking holes all in your little story just like your Mother did to my condom many years ago my son 

Well Chesire Cat was not this cool edgy thing and similar to Dude Ranch anyways so what's your point?

It's pretty obvious we're talking where Rick Devoe wanted to take/keep the band.  They were widely known as this pop punk summer band that made Enema, ATST, WMAA, Dammit.  TOYPAJ was slightly heavier/darker feel to it (before First Date/Rock Show), just the way it overall sounded and the way they started dressing, acting - Happy Holidays, Fuck A Dog, Shut Up, etc.  In retrospect, it's nothing, and closest to Enema.  At the time, we didn't have Self Titled, Box Car, Ava, +44, Neighborhoods, etc, etc.  Just Enema, and a couple songs off Dude Ranch were their known image. 

 

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1 minute ago, Here I am, chorus in a Can said:

Well Chesire Cat was not this cool edgy thing and similar to Dude Ranch anyways so what's your point?

It's pretty obvious we're talking where Rick Devoe wanted to take/keep the band.  They were widely known as this pop punk summer band that made Enema, ATST, WMAA, Dammit.  TOYPAJ was slightly heavier/darker feel to it (before First Date/Rock Show), just the way it overall sounded and the way they started dressing, acting - Happy Holidays, Fuck A Dog, Shut Up, etc.  In retrospect, it's nothing, and closest to Enema.  At the time, they only were comparing it to Enema really as that was their big moment at the time.

 

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I’m not even going to read your mumble jargon. The point is you made a ridiculous statement that only enema and DR was available to compare TOYPAJ to, which again, is just utterly false and stupid. But hey if that’s the hill you want to die on, go ahead!

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16 minutes ago, thongrider said:

I did think it was silly that they tried to be so cool for toypaj compared to enema. And still do. 

The more and more I look back on everything, the closer they actually were to boybands than I used to think. “Hey let’s try to show everyone we’re not a boy band”…proceeds to all start wearing the same outfit and colors…lets their non-musical manager tell them they need to write cheesy songs they end up hating…I still say First Date is such a lame song, especially with where they were in their careers at that point. Yes, the video was great but they could have made the same video for any song 

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2 hours ago, FAPLORD said:

I’m not even going to read your mumble jargon. The point is you made a ridiculous statement that only enema and DR was available to compare TOYPAJ to, which again, is just utterly false and stupid. But hey if that’s the hill you want to die on, go ahead!

Jan likes to pretend Cheshire doesn’t exist.  Tried to convince us once that casual fans knew Cheshire less than neighbourhoods just because, completely ignoring the fact Cheshire had songs on the greatest hits etc.

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19 minutes ago, Russel Coight said:

Jan likes to pretend Cheshire doesn’t exist.  Tried to convince us once that casual fans knew Cheshire less than neighbourhoods just because, completely ignoring the fact Cheshire had songs on the greatest hits etc.

Tbf I don't think most casuals know Dude Ranch exists. 

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TOPYAJ - Summer Succy Sellout jamboree

Tom showed what he could do legit a year later with Boxcar. The singles from that album (videos permitting) blowwww.

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23 minutes ago, _Bagel said:

TOPYAJ - Summer Succy Sellout jamboree

Tom showed what he could do legit a year later with Boxcar. The singles from that album (videos permitting) blowwww.

Agreed. What are you favorite songs from TOYPAJ? Mine are give me one good reason, and then the two electric bonus songs. I hate it that friends who know I’m into blink assume I’m rocking out to first date 😅 lol 

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Everytime I Look For You kicks ass. Best song from that album and one of the all time great blink songs. I've always said TOYPAJ instrumentally is an amazing album but the lyrics in most of the tracks are just bad.

They don't seem as honest to me as Enema lyrics do, which was only 2 years before and pretty much has similar subject matters. Hard to explain but something about TOYPAJ doesn't click with me the way Enema does.

Anthem Part 2 has lyrics I think are decent in one verse but then in another verse it turns into bad lyrics (especially this bit: corporate leaders, politicians, kids can't vote, adults elect them). Other songs have the same problem. I just feel like Enema doesn't have that problem.

I'll always find the lyrics in Reckless Abandon hilarious though. I'm 29 and I still crack up at the "took a shit in the bathroom tub" line.

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1 hour ago, twentytwenty said:

Tbf I don't think most casuals know Dude Ranch exists. 

Sorry, not casual as in people that only know the radio hits but people that aren’t die-hard fans that are getting into the band. Jan was under the illusion people checking out all the albums would just skip/not notice Cheshire just because.

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1 hour ago, Nosferatu said:

Everytime I Look For You kicks ass. Best song from that album and one of the all time great blink songs. I've always said TOYPAJ instrumentally is an amazing album but the lyrics in most of the tracks are just bad.

They don't seem as honest to me as Enema lyrics do, which was only 2 years before and pretty much has similar subject matters. Hard to explain but something about TOYPAJ doesn't click with me the way Enema does.

Anthem Part 2 has lyrics I think are decent in one verse but then in another verse it turns into bad lyrics (especially this bit: corporate leaders, politicians, kids can't vote, adults elect them). Other songs have the same problem. I just feel like Enema doesn't have that problem.

I'll always find the lyrics in Reckless Abandon hilarious though. I'm 29 and I still crack up at the "took a shit in the bathroom tub" line.

I don’t mind Everytime I Look For You but I don’t understand the legendary status a lot of fans give it. The “will the last one out please shut the door” line always came across as extremely lazy in my opinion 

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8 hours ago, FAPLORD said:

Agreed. What are you favorite songs from TOYPAJ? Mine are give me one good reason, and then the two electric bonus songs. I hate it that friends who know I’m into blink assume I’m rocking out to first date 😅 lol 

apparently people who love give me one good reason, time to break up and don't tell me that it's over get all the hate on reddit, but those 3 are my favourite songs from TOYPAJ 🙌

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