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4 hours ago, Maddey said:

I personally don’t think the drama has helped blink writing great new music either but that’s just my opinion. It helps keeping them interesting though

Didn't say it did.  I wasn't talking about blink at that point.  I was talking about what might be good for Green Day.  The band is just a hollow husk of it's former self with no signs of doing anything to change that. They need something to reinvigorate that band.  It doesn't have to be drama, but they need to do something cuz whatever music-writing magic they used to have is long gone and dried up.

4 hours ago, twentytwenty said:

Haha it's funny how things can be different for people. As an example, for me, 21CB was where they got it right 😂

But I didn't say 21CB was bad.  It's a fine album, like legit their last album that I would say is decent that I ever revisit.  But let's be real, it's also a bit of a phoned in album, a repeat of the album they did before that was fine in it's own right, but when measured against the album before it, you see a band that was repeating itself with a lesser take on the album right before it.  Which is a stance I wouldn't fault others from having for Take Off Your Pants and Jacket compared to Enema before it.   The caveat there being though that I feel like they still managed to follow up TOYPAJ with their best album yet.  While I don't think Green Day has done anything better (or even as good) as American Idiot since they released that album. 

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I’ve always thought the big difference with Green Day and blink is the GD guys really are best friends through and through so it is still “fun” and less “business”.  It doesn’t come across in stage banter, videos etc but thats why the side projects they’ve done they’ve done together ie. The Network, Foxboro Hot Tubs, even Pinhead Gunpowder, Longshot, Oakland Coffee Co.  And they are all extremely supportive of one another when doing so.  

That’s always where the break imo has been is there’s full transparency on the vision in the Green Day camp with all 3 guys knowing full well that their bread and butter is GD but wanna go try something different it seems like it’s a collective “cool let’s do it!”

Blinks side stuff has always seemed to take away from the band from a personal stand point with the weird jealousy and awkwardness of it all.  And part of blinks  charm is the idea that they all are best friends (more importantly Mark and Tom) when who they’ve grown up to be just isn’t the same as when they were in their 20s but they still want to reap the benefits and success of what they built.

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3 hours ago, M!ke said:

But I didn't say 21CB was bad.  It's a fine album, like legit their last album that I would say is decent that I ever revisit.  But let's be real, it's also a bit of a phoned in album, a repeat of the album they did before that was fine in it's own right, but when measured against the album before it, you see a band that was repeating itself with a lesser take on the album right before it.  Which is a stance I wouldn't fault others from having for Take Off Your Pants and Jacket compared to Enema before it.   The caveat there being though that I feel like they still managed to follow up TOYPAJ with their best album yet.  While I don't think Green Day has done anything better (or even as good) as American Idiot since they released that album. 

I don't think you really read or understood what I was saying. 

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It’s probably as simple as Skiba not knowing what’s going on because none of them know what’s going on. You’d think they’d be close enough with him that he would know enough not to make that post…but humans.

They aren’t officially in studio and Matt is on tour. I doubt there is much more to the story or we’d be getting whispers. 

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2 hours ago, Ghent said:

It’s probably as simple as Skiba not knowing what’s going on because none of them know what’s going on. You’d think they’d be close enough with him that he would know enough not to make that post…but humans.

They aren’t officially in studio and Matt is on tour. I doubt there is much more to the story or we’d be getting whispers. 

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You have to admire the Tombots a little. This is probably the 15th time since 2015 that they’ve been adamant Skiba is out of the band and Tom is rejoining. Even though they’ve been wrong every other time they still always remain so confident that this time it’s for real.

To the stars gentlemen. To the stars…🫡

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37 minutes ago, Russel Coight said:

You have to admire the Tombots a little. This is probably the 15th time since 2015 that they’ve been adamant Skiba is out of the band and Tom is rejoining. Even though they’ve been wrong every other time they still always remain so confident that this time it’s for real.

To the stars gentlemen. To the stars…🫡

I don’t think Tom’s back, not really any real evidence of it and he still talks like he has zero interest in interviews though it’s fun to joke about here because there’s literally nothing else. I do think everyone in this band has always been a bit of an ass hole and we’re seeing it on display here. Wouldn’t have gotten the 20 years of drama from this band if Tom was just a sole joker villain. 

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4 hours ago, daveyjones said:

woah. calm down, notnow. calm down.

While you've obviously spent more time with Mark than the rest of us, it's not really that much more in the grand scheme of things, so I don't know that your read of him necessarily holds more weight than anyone else's.

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17 hours ago, M!ke said:

Didn't say it did.  I wasn't talking about blink at that point.  I was talking about what might be good for Green Day.  The band is just a hollow husk of it's former self with no signs of doing anything to change that. They need something to reinvigorate that band.  It doesn't have to be drama, but they need to do something cuz whatever music-writing magic they used to have is long gone and dried up.

 

It’s almost like one of their main song writers is gone lol

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1 hour ago, Ghent said:

Coping with what exactly?

Nothing against Skiba, he can stay, but I want Tom back. Win win for me 🤷‍♂️

I'd like to see Tom back too. Mostly bc travis now can fly I might have a chance to actually see them live at least once in my life. AVA will not release anything new until at least 2029 anyways and Matt would go back full time to Trio which would mean more music there. Win win! 

BUT, I'd like a followup to NINE with Matt before this happens

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18 hours ago, Patient #48273 said:

While you've obviously spent more time with Mark than the rest of us, it's not really that much more in the grand scheme of things, so I don't know that your read of him necessarily holds more weight than anyone else's.

i just think there's no grounds for calling the people in the band assholes is all i meant.

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29 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

i just think there's no grounds for calling the people in the band assholes is all i meant.

I don’t know these people so what I say means nothing. I’m specifically referring to the things we see as fans and we’ve seen a lot of assholish behavior in their professional business over twenty years, the least so from mark of course. If I specifically referred to them as an asshole I didn’t mean that and just meant it as a descriptor of the situation we’re discussing. And humans tend to be more of assholes professionally and often need to be unfortunately because people will fuck you over, and then really great in their personal life (and from the outside mark has always seemed like an amazing person other than potentially the politics of the personal relationships of his business) which is what matters most. My observation has nothing to do with how I view any of them as people other than to me they seem to not be good at maintaining healthy relationships in this business through communication problems. Again I’m a fan that knows zero, all we do is make observations off the tiniest data we have.

tl;dr were fans. We make observations based on tiny random interactions that mean nothing because we don’t know anything about these people. That’s what this site is. Every person on here has said negative things about every member of this band for some reason or another over the last twenty years, far more horrific than just saying one seems to potentially be displaying asshole behavior over a specific thing that happened. If someone on here knew Tom personally as a good friend in present day or even Travis with all of the pop punk and kardashian jokes, they’d probably have a stroke.

Not trying to make this into a big deal, but if you know mark personally and are friends (which is great) you might struggle to continue to enjoy the blink section because the band can’t seem to stay out of drama and don’t think that’s ever going to change at this point and fans are going to speculate and continue to say dumb shit, and this website has been known to say toxic shit for years at least in comparison to something like marks discord. Just if I knew a celebrity, I wouldn’t be able to monitor their fan pages because I know dumb things are going to be said about them which will conflict with how I know them personally.

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Also calling them assholes is nothing compared to when we called Mark an alcoholic and Tom a coke fiend. 

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4 hours ago, Kay said:

Also calling them assholes is nothing compared to when we called Mark an alcoholic and Tom a coke fiend. 

When did people think Mark was an alcoholic? Don’t think I’ve ever even seen a pic or video of him having one beer 

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5 hours ago, NotNow said:

I don’t know these people so what I say means nothing. I’m specifically referring to the things we see as fans and we’ve seen a lot of assholish behavior in their professional business over twenty years, the least so from mark of course. If I specifically referred to them as an asshole I didn’t mean that and just meant it as a descriptor of the situation we’re discussing. And humans tend to be more of assholes professionally and often need to be unfortunately because people will fuck you over, and then really great in their personal life (and from the outside mark has always seemed like an amazing person other than potentially the politics of the personal relationships of his business) which is what matters most. My observation has nothing to do with how I view any of them as people other than to me they seem to not be good at maintaining healthy relationships in this business through communication problems. Again I’m a fan that knows zero, all we do is make observations off the tiniest data we have.

tl;dr were fans. We make observations based on tiny random interactions that mean nothing because we don’t know anything about these people. That’s what this site is. Every person on here has said negative things about every member of this band for some reason or another over the last twenty years, far more horrific than just saying one seems to potentially be displaying asshole behavior over a specific thing that happened. If someone on here knew Tom personally as a good friend in present day or even Travis with all of the pop punk and kardashian jokes, they’d probably have a stroke.

Not trying to make this into a big deal, but if you know mark personally and are friends (which is great) you might struggle to continue to enjoy the blink section because the band can’t seem to stay out of drama and don’t think that’s ever going to change at this point and fans are going to speculate and continue to say dumb shit, and this website has been known to say toxic shit for years at least in comparison to something like marks discord. Just if I knew a celebrity, I wouldn’t be able to monitor their fan pages because I know dumb things are going to be said about them which will conflict with how I know them personally.

Your tl:dr was longer than your actual post man.  Major foul.

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10 minutes ago, Zach Wilson said:

When did people think Mark was an alcoholic? Don’t think I’ve ever even seen a pic or video of him having one beer 

You are an amateur fan then. Mark probably doesn't drink much anymore, but he goes over his show ritual every behind the scenes which includes a glass of whiskey/coke I want to say. 

That doesn't make him an alcoholic, but he did used to smoke and drink in the heyday videos

 

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