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1 hour ago, prankerd14 said:

It basically kept going back to a point in the story till i got an ending..i must of got 4 or 5 endings till it went to end credits...is that it or is there more?...

Seemed very confusing at points...

Yeah, I was reading up on it, there's essentially 4 different endings.

My biggest gripe with it was they kept making you go back to redo a decision??  As if there are incorrect choices?

But then I read they are doing that on purpose to show you aren't in control either or something?

A bit overly confusing.  Too many theories can arise.

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On 12/29/2018 at 11:53 AM, NJansaid said:

Yeah, I was reading up on it, there's essentially 4 different endings.

My biggest gripe with it was they kept making you go back to redo a decision??  As if there are incorrect choices?

But then I read they are doing that on purpose to show you aren't in control either or something?

A bit overly confusing.  Too many theories can arise.

Exactly the point. Entire show was incredibly meta, and what I found interesting was that it referenced your "mistakes" in the show as well (if you chose a certain way of going, which the show decided was moot and made you go back, it would actually reference it slightly. For example, when you get sent back to choose to work from home instead of in the office, they reference the fact you've been there before. 

So, when they force you to choose certain pathways, as you said, one of the overarching themes is to be questioning your free-will and ability to make decisions. Are you making the decisions, really? It's a bit of a blunt way to get you to think of that, but there's so many levels of this same theme arising that I think it was crafted pretty creatively. 

Originally, I really disliked the episode for the same reason. Then, after going down the hole deeper, I really fucking loved that episode. Anyone else go down the route where "explain what Netflix is" was an option? Had a good laugh about making the life more exciting. 

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6 hours ago, Mau5 said:

Exactly the point. Entire show was incredibly meta, and what I found interesting was that it referenced your "mistakes" in the show as well (if you chose a certain way of going, which the show decided was moot and made you go back, it would actually reference it slightly. For example, when you get sent back to choose to work from home instead of in the office, they reference the fact you've been there before. 

So, when they force you to choose certain pathways, as you said, one of the overarching themes is to be questioning your free-will and ability to make decisions. Are you making the decisions, really? It's a bit of a blunt way to get you to think of that, but there's so many levels of this same theme arising that I think it was crafted pretty creatively. 

Originally, I really disliked the episode for the same reason. Then, after going down the hole deeper, I really fucking loved that episode. Anyone else go down the route where "explain what Netflix is" was an option? Had a good laugh about making the life more exciting. 

Yeah I agree, I've warmed up to it more, and it's not like they are including it in the seasons as far as I can tell so it's its own separate thing.

It's cool that they are twisting it again to make you question control as well... But the problem is then it drags a bit by doing so.  

The Netflix part was my favorite.  Really would have freaked me out if I was by myself

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Bandersnatch was fucking stupid. I get what they were going for, its produced to go along with the themes of the episode, but it just came off shitty.  I got to the end of it feeling like i just wasted time watching something that never actually went anywhere.  3/10

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Yeah, I didn’t enjoy it either. Wayyy too heavyhanded with its themes and allusions...trust your audience to get the point. You don’t have to hit them over the head with your message, lmao. At the point where Colin was like, ~ there are multiple pathways but they all end in the same thing, ~ I was like, how stupid do you think your viewers are? Sigh...

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32 minutes ago, Nasa said:

Yeah, I didn’t enjoy it either. Wayyy too heavyhanded with its themes and allusions...trust your audience to get the point. You don’t have to hit them over the head with your message, lmao. At the point where Colin was like, ~ there are multiple pathways but they all end in the same thing, ~ I was like, how stupid do you think your viewers are? Sigh...

I'm trying to justify it by there being another meaning behind it all, like we aren't in any control either bla bla, it is Black mirror after all and I don't see them gimmicky.

I didn't love it either though.

Back to episodes plz

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I thought it was entertaining, yes the story wasn’t amazing or anything but it’s a brave effort and something that’s never been done before? I’ve gone through every decision pretty much, I enjoyed it anyway. 

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41 minutes ago, Margie Whipple's Rage said:

It didn't work for books or porn, I doubt it's gonna work for tv or movies. It's a cute gimmick but I don't think there's much future in it.

Given how popular narrative, choice-based video games are right now (The Witcher 3, RDR2, etc.), I think there's definitely a large niche for it in TV.

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Yeah I agree. We have no idea where technology is going to go. The line between consuming entertainment and engaging with entertainment will only become blurrier, especially considering tv is primarily a visual medium with repeated / sustained storylines over a period of time, unlike a book.

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https://mashable.com/article/charlie-brooker-bandersnatch-black-mirror-response/#zvOylbGS2kqE

 

Dude's getting a little self indulgent. Once writers start to smell themselves they tend to suck, hopefully season 5 comes through but I'm feeling it may be more gimmicky and less interesting like season 4.  

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Late to the party but I also thought bandersnatch was an interesting concept done really obnoxiously and up it's own ass.

But I also don't see true your own adventure TV taking off. I mean, art, stories... every aspect of it is curated to tell a certain story, different endings and wings will always dilute the core of it. Seems unlikely for real story telling.

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