daveyjones Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, baddyguerrero said: My apologies for the abrupt entrance. I read through the whole 14 page thread that night and saw that it died out so I took it upon myself to get the conversation about the holy grail started yet again. Appreciate all you’ve done, Davey. Thanks for the response. it's all good. i was only being snarky! to annoy @Patient #48273. welcome to the boards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf182 Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 5:53 AM, veeRob said: Sounds like the lyrics to a shitty pop-punk band. He might wanna copyright that before New Found Glory does Boom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient #48273 Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 @Chad Gilbert is gonna be pissed when he sees that comment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell_gross Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 surprised this wasn’t brought up here. Josie demo in ok quality on youtube 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mitchell_gross said: surprised this wasn’t brought up here. Josie demo in ok quality on youtube there's better quality up. it's from a surf video VHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell_gross Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/3/2021 at 8:02 PM, daveyjones said: there's better quality up. it's from a surf video VHS. Any idea the name of this surf video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thibaut182 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, mitchell_gross said: Any idea the name of this surf video? Drifting by Taylor Steele (at 36:15) released in 1996 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinkstillrules Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 It's confirmed Chesh is lying about having the DR demos. His clip of the Apple Shampoo demo on YouTube is actually a Billabong commerical that used the demo version of Apple Shampoo. Another bootleg collector confirmed it to me. 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganGrinderX182 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 4:27 PM, blinkstillrules said: It's confirmed Chesh is lying about having the DR demos. His clip of the Apple Shampoo demo on YouTube is actually a Billabong commerical that used the demo version of Apple Shampoo. Another bootleg collector confirmed it to me. Not surprising in the least, that dudes always-sucked.tk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserkidsrabbit Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 1:08 PM, OrganGrinderX182 said: Not surprising in the least, that dudes always-sucked.tk Hahaha. But overall its a shame. That was a very good quality version of them demos. And so the search continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsonemanband Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Sucks that we got sooooo close to having these... the dude should have leaked them anonymously rather than going straight through Mark who notoriously hates releasing demos of old stuff. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannigan Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, bradsonemanband said: Sucks that we got sooooo close to having these... the dude should have leaked them anonymously rather than going straight through Mark who notoriously hates releasing demos of old stuff. Bummer. Does he Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, bradsonemanband said: the dude should have leaked them anonymously @veeRob would have never done that. he was good friends with mark for quite some time. plus his copy is like a multi-generation dub and in no shape for any kind of release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyjones Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ash-517 said: Also wasn't there some issue with whether they recorded the DR demos with label money, thus preventing them from being able to legally release them? the particulars (which seem to involve kung fu records) are unclear. although @blinkstillrulesis in contact with joe vandal, who has been helpful with many other matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeRob Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, daveyjones said: @veeRob would have never done that. he was good friends with mark for quite some time. plus his copy is like a multi-generation dub and in no shape for any kind of release. Yeah it's not my property to give out, even leak. As it has become clear I'm the only one left holding the demo, it'd be pretty obvious that it was me leaking it. AND it's against the band's wishes? Yeah, sorry guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinkstillrules Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Ash-517 said: I mean considering the only demo that is commercially available is the Buddha remaster (and some people consider Buddha an album, not a demo) then I'd say he isn't very open with releasing demos. Also wasn't there some issue with whether they recorded the DR demos with label money, thus preventing them from being able to legally release them? Either way I think it's in Mark's nature to look ahead to new things rather than spend much time worrying about an old demo he recorded over 20 years ago. I'd like to think we can hear them some day but I'm not counting on it at the moment. I've accepted I'm never going to hear the DR demos, which is a massive disappointment. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q182 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 hours ago, blinkstillrules said: I've accepted I'm never going to hear the DR demos. Me as well. It’s a huge bummer, even though it’s only a demo tape in the grand scheme of things. I understand there’d be quite a few hurdles to leap in order for a proper release to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsonemanband Posted May 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 @veeRob It totally makes sense why you didn't leak the tape. I respect that decision. Can you at least describe the unreleased song? Mark mentioned that it's a song that they ended up borrowing a few parts of and put into other songs. I'd love to know what exactly from that song we've all actually heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeRob Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, bradsonemanband said: @veeRob It totally makes sense why you didn't leak the tape. I respect that decision. Can you at least describe the unreleased song? Mark mentioned that it's a song that they ended up borrowing a few parts of and put into other songs. I'd love to know what exactly from that song we've all actually heard. What a great idea! I can absolutely describe it. And I completely disagree with Mark's assessment that the pieces were used in other songs. 00:00 A classic Tom style slow riff starts the song 00:15 Drums and bass are added 00:40 Song speeds up, just drums and bass 00:47 Guitar kicks in with a tasty Tom style riff 00:56 Tom sings the first verse 01:12 Song switches to half time as Tom sings the first chorus 01:20 Song switches back to full speed as Tom sings the second half of the chorus 01:27 Back to the tasty Tom riff from the intro 01:35 Tom sings the second verse 01:51 Tom sings the second chorus 02:07 Song slows back down and it's just bass and drums 02:16 Mark sings a one-line hook repeating with a single guitar added 02:25 Tom sings the first line of the first verse on top of Mark's repetitive hook (my favorite part) 02:33 Overlapping vocals continue but speed increases 02:42 Tom sings the chorus a third time, and the tasty Tom riff comes in over the second half 03:00 End of song 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsonemanband Posted May 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, veeRob said: What a great idea! I can absolutely describe it. And I completely disagree with Mark's assessment that the pieces were used in other songs. 00:00 A classic Tom style slow riff starts the song 00:15 Drums and bass are added 00:40 Song speeds up, just drums and bass 00:47 Guitar kicks in with a tasty Tom style riff 00:56 Tom sings the first verse 01:12 Song switches to half time as Tom sings the first chorus 01:20 Song switches back to full speed as Tom sings the second half of the chorus 01:27 Back to the tasty Tom riff from the intro 01:35 Tom sings the second verse 01:51 Tom sings the second chorus 02:07 Song slows back down and it's just bass and drums 02:16 Mark sings a one-line hook repeating with a single guitar added 02:25 Tom sings the first line of the first verse on top of Mark's repetitive hook (my favorite part) 02:33 Overlapping vocals continue but speed increases 02:42 Tom sings the chorus a third time, and the tasty Tom riff comes in over the second half 03:00 End of song Wow! So cool! Thank you for the description! Now I’m even more bummed we will probably never hear it since you don’t agree that they recycled any of it for other songs. Haha. Is there a song or two in their discography that you’d compare it to? Or, if it was on Dude Ranch, where would you place it in an album ranking? Top/middle/low? And is that the only song on the demo tape we haven’t heard? I’ve read some conflicting info that there may be a second unreleased song on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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