Elisa Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Now he's dead and he's paid the ultimate price for his actions. I can only wonder what some righteous guidance could have done for him when he was younger. An armed robbery when he was 16ish shows that his childhood was all sorts of messed up. He was definitely a product of the environment he grew up in, and could have redeemed himself but, in the meantime, the amount of kids who look up to and idolise people like XXXTentacion is majorly depressing. They need better role models. And other artists that choose to be very vocal about social issues, shouldn't associate with them. There are better people to make a song with. The listeners can do all they want and listen to anything they like. Art is a gift because of how it speaks to you, no matter how shitty the person who created it was. But if you're in the music industry, while you can't go back in time to stop Mick Jagger when he was abusing his power by having sex with minors, you can choose to take a stand now if some other current artists are problematic. XXXTentacion kind of falls into the 'current artists' category because they're releasing these posthumous albums now. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Count me as someone that can separate the art and the person. One of my favourite ever albums is Brand New's Science Fiction. I wasn't in love with that album yet despite hearing all the shit that the singer apparently did a few years ago. Yeah, I didn't agree with anything he did whatsoever. But he still makes damn good music that I can listen to. I despise violence on women, but that still doesn't stop me loving Mel Gibson movies like Mad Max or the ones he's directed like Hacksaw Ridge (which was released after his incidents). Tupac spent time in prison for sexual assault but I'll still listen to his music. Michael Jackson was accused of disgusting stuff but his song Just Beat It will always be one of my favourites (and I fell in love with that song way after his death). Shitty people can make amazing art. And I'm gonna continue to listen to that art. I'd have actually loved to write an album with Charles Manson involved, just for artistic reasons. Just cause I'll listen to their art it doesn't mean I'm supporting everything they do. I just like art. Doesn't matter who it's from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 If you listen to any older NFG you are condoning pedophilia by the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ghent said: If you listen to any older NFG you are condoning pedophilia by the way. Are you grumpy because you had to stand in the govt dole line for your HC? I am going to write your senators to eliminate that program. You can afford to pay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Nosferatu said: Count me as someone that can separate the art and the person. One of my favourite ever albums is Brand New's Science Fiction. I wasn't in love with that album yet despite hearing all the shit that the singer apparently did a few years ago. Yeah, I didn't agree with anything he did whatsoever. But he still makes damn good music that I can listen to. I despise violence on women, but that still doesn't stop me loving Mel Gibson movies like Mad Max or the ones he's directed like Hacksaw Ridge (which was released after his incidents). Tupac spent time in prison for sexual assault but I'll still listen to his music. Michael Jackson was accused of disgusting stuff but his song Just Beat It will always be one of my favourites (and I fell in love with that song way after his death). Shitty people can make amazing art. And I'm gonna continue to listen to that art. I'd have actually loved to write an album with Charles Manson involved, just for artistic reasons. Just cause I'll listen to their art it doesn't mean I'm supporting everything they do. I just like art. Doesn't matter who it's from. Not the topic at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Donald Trump's Bulge said: Are you grumpy because you had to stand in the govt dole line for your HC? Why would i be grumpy about nice healthcare?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarJarBlinks Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Donald Trump's Bulge said: Are you grumpy because you had to stand in the govt dole line for your HC? I am going to write your senators to eliminate that program. You can afford to pay more. Not the topic at hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ghent said: Why would i be grumpy about nice healthcare?! True, why give that money to someone who truly needs it? How Jeff Bezos of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Xtestical was a pile of garbage. Mark was a huge hypocrite for working with him. Ghent tries to justify women beating because Blink can do no wrong. He is pathetic. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Roasted!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Батюшка Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 The real issue at hand, is the fact that celebrities rarely hold each other accountable for their actions because part of being a celebrity is marrying in to the group think circle jerk. Most celebrities are willing to set aside their ideological / religious / moral beliefs when it comes to earning more money. That's just the way it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, skarz said: The real issue at hand, is the fact that celebrities rarely hold each other accountable for their actions because part of being a celebrity is marrying in to the group think circle jerk. Most celebrities are willing to set aside their ideological / religious / moral beliefs when it comes to earning more money. That's just the way it works. Yet you are a Trump supporter...🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Батюшка Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghent said: Yet you are a Trump supporter...🤔 Completely irrelevant and off topic, but it's interesting that you label me as a "Trump supporter" when I suggested that all politicians who commit treason should be hanged, despite none of my posts showing any explicit support for Trump. I support politicians (both left and right) when they do good things and I have no problem holding them accountable when they do bad things. Honestly if Trump isn't up for reelection in 2020 I'd probably vote for Tulsi Gabbard or Rand Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Value Man Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, skarz said: Completely irrelevant and off topic, but it's interesting that you label me as a "Trump supporter" when I suggested that all politicians who commit treason should be hanged, despite none of my posts showing any explicit support for Trump. I support politicians (both left and right) when they do good things and I have no problem holding them accountable when they do bad things. Honestly if Trump isn't up for reelection in 2020 I'd probably vote for Tulsi Gabbard or Rand Paul. Ignore Ghent, he was a die hard Trump supporter until it became cool to think otherwise. You can find posts of his saying that Trump was an amazing businessman. 2 Years later he said the exact opposite. What changed? Nothing. Except that the left wing media told Ghent how to think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, skarz said: Completely irrelevant and off topic, but it's interesting that you label me as a "Trump supporter" when I suggested that all politicians who commit treason should be hanged, despite none of my posts showing any explicit support for Trump. I support politicians (both left and right) when they do good things and I have no problem holding them accountable when they do bad things. Honestly if Trump isn't up for reelection in 2020 I'd probably vote for Tulsi Gabbard or Rand Paul. I just figured most people who think Hillary Clinton should be hanged might lean Trump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Tracker Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Lol @Donald Trump's Bulge gets triggered by everything nowadays, what a snowflake. This fake outrage culture is so fucking dumb; make better use of your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vinegar Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Speedo said: Prosecutors dropped the case against Spacey, the accuser was basically a fuckwad... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kevin-spacey-criminal-sexual-assault-case-charges-dropped-in-nantucket-criminal-trial-today-2019-07-17/ Well I maybe don't know everything about this but didn't Spacey have multiple accusations? He definitely apologized for his behavior even though he couldn't remember coming onto his underaged costar. Plus his weird videos he posted... Either way, why are people commending Mark for not promoting the song? His voice is fucking in the song! He could've prevented the release and he didn't. He's profiting off it. Goddamn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, vic vinegar said: Well I maybe don't know everything about this but didn't Spacey have multiple accusations? He definitely apologized for his behavior even though he couldn't remember coming onto his underaged costar. Plus his weird videos he posted... Either way, why are people commending Mark for not promoting the song? His voice is fucking in the song! He could've prevented the release and he didn't. He's profiting off it. Goddamn. The first accusation was a load of shit. The second saw the accuser pass away. Guilty or not, I won't condemn someone without a trial. Spacey has been more than willing to go to court, he hasn't fled or tried to dismiss anything. I have no problem with Mark and Travis being on this song. It's a song, it's either subjectively good or bad. Personally I don't care much for it but that doesn't mean no one else should enjoy it. The main artists is dead and gone without trial and without conviction, whether he was guilty or not is none of my business or say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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