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1 minute ago, Speedo said:

Tom is the Paul formerly known as Saul.

He once was blind but now he sees, the faith that once was missing is now his guiding light.

So if he is Paul formerly known as Saul that once was blind but now can see with the faith as his guiding light, what does that make us?

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1 minute ago, twentytwenty said:

So if he is Paul formerly known as Saul that once was blind but now can see with the faith as his guiding light, what does that make us?

The incestuous, lesbian daughters of a merciful God.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Speedo said:

The incestuous, lesbian daughters of a merciful God.

This is probably my favorite thing I've ever said! I probably stole it from somewhere but, fuck it.

Posted
6 hours ago, twentytwenty said:

Lagwagon never clicked with me for some reason. The lord knows that I've tried multiple times but weirdly without effect

to deny His Holiness The Caper ye shall be banished from the boards. @Speedo summon thee an admin!

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Posted
12 hours ago, _Bagel said:

@daveyjones That sounds like a hell of a drive. Thanks for your little anecdotes as well. Nice guitar,  what was it like recording at DML? Was that where most San Diego bands set up shop to record back in the day?

DML was the best (and only) professional studio in north san diego county. the guy who owned it, don, was this wise-crackin' dude from the bronx, NY with a heavy italian gangster accent. chain smoking, beer belly, hockey hair, the whole deal. he'd always be busting balls, joking about how much your music sucked. you'd play a solo and he'd crack "yea maybe this song doesn't need your shitty guitar line."

i'm guessing blink chose DML because it was only about a 15min drive from bernardo and 20min or so from poway. way easier than driving down into san diego to practice. i lived in escondido for four years after college and it was just the place to go. cut several demos there. unwritten law and new found glory also recorded there, along with pivit, agent 51, just about everyone in the san diego scene.

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2007/dec/13/too-much-passion/

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1 minute ago, twentytwenty said:

Hahaha I’ll have to give it a another go then

I started kind of weird ... I had heard the old classics... violins, sick, razor burn, etc. but it wasn't until I read up on Resolve to and then gave the album a spin in the context of it being basically a album of grieving the loss of the late drummer, Derrick. That's what did it for me and made me really appreciate Joey's lyrics and writing which led to me paying more attention and appreciating everything else and then I moved on with a better understanding and they have become one of my favorite bands.

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1 minute ago, Speedo said:

I started kind of weird ... I had heard the old classics... violins, sick, razor burn, etc. but it wasn't until I read up on Resolve to and then gave the album a spin in the context of it being basically a album of grieving the loss of the late drummer, Derrick. That's what did it for me and made me really appreciate Joey's lyrics and writing which led to me paying more attention and appreciating everything else and then I moved on with a better understanding and they have become one of my favorite bands.

The weird thing is I enjoyed joeys acoustic work with Tony Sly, but never seemed to get into the band. 
 

gonna give it another go though

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4 minutes ago, Speedo said:

I started kind of weird ... I had heard the old classics... violins, sick, razor burn, etc. but it wasn't until I read up on Resolve to and then gave the album a spin in the context of it being basically a album of grieving the loss of the late drummer, Derrick. That's what did it for me and made me really appreciate Joey's lyrics and writing which led to me paying more attention and appreciating everything else and then I moved on with a better understanding and they have become one of my favorite bands.

From what I've seen early on, maybe less than 25% of the fans put a lot of stock into lyrics, which I'm surprised by, especially considering Joey is a master with words emotionally and socially charged lyrics.

Posted
Just now, Elisa said:

From what I've seen early on, maybe less than 25% of the fans put a lot of stock into lyrics, which I'm surprised by, especially considering Joey is a master with words emotionally and socially charged lyrics.

I'm not a huge fan of lyrics, personally... in fact, Against Me! and Lagwagon are the only two I really pay attention to but, boy, do they sure hit the spot.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Speedo said:

That's what did it for me and made me really appreciate Joey's lyrics and writing which led to me paying more attention and appreciating everything else

joey is a handful of songwriters in the genre—trever keith of face to face is another—who can be deeply vulnerable and emotional and still, well, sound "masculine." i feel odd making that observation; it's a distinctly american thing. i don't give a shit, personally. but i grew up playing in bands with some more bro-ish dudes who would shirk away a top 40 male artist emoting, but could totally get the feels from keith or the caper.

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18 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

joey is a handful of songwriters in the genre—trever keith of face to face is another—who can be deeply vulnerable and emotional and still, well, sound "masculine." i feel odd making that observation; it's a distinctly american thing. i don't give a shit, personally. but i grew up playing in bands with some more bro-ish dudes who would shirk away a top 40 male artist emoting, but could totally get the feels from keith or the caper.

I listen to Blink or Screeching Weasel or some other band of the sort and I never really like what they put out lyrically is something I couldn't create myself ... MTX would be an exception, Dr. Frank is quite the wordsmith in his own right  ... But Joey's tend to blow me a way, even with its simplicity it feels profound and meaningful.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Speedo said:

Joey's tend to blow me away, even with its simplicity it feels profound and meaningful.

i would also put tony sly in that category.

Posted
1 minute ago, daveyjones said:

i would also put tony sly in that category.

I have a hard time getting into his work. He isn't as melody driven as Joey.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Speedo said:

I have a hard time getting into his work. He isn't as melody driven as Joey.

oh man, but his words... check out his solo acoustic stuff. it's crushing. he knew he was headed for overdose / suicide. the depression drips in his songs.

Posted
7 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

oh man, but his words... check out his solo acoustic stuff. it's crushing. he knew he was headed for overdose / suicide. the depression drips in his songs.

Did he actually OD? I thought it was a heart attack?

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Oh my god, Lagwagon, Blink AND Pulley. That’s a lineup, I could go on about Pulley for days too - class act 

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