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The thing with Nirvana is that the profound cultural influence of their music justifies all the attention they receive.
No one at the time wrote a single song that reshaped culture or evoked even a fraction of the intense response Kurt Cobain achieved. His melodies stirred deep emotions, his raw vocal delivery amplified that impact. Like them or not, Nirvana’s recognition is well-deserved imo. 

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14 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Hitching a Ride is the shit. Sorry that you’d rather listen to some stupid space lord interlude for 40 minutes instead 

It's fine on the album.

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15 minutes ago, Elisa said:

The thing with Nirvana is that the profound cultural influence of their music justifies all the attention they receive.
No one at the time wrote a single song that reshaped culture or evoked even a fraction of the intense response Kurt Cobain achieved. His melodies stirred deep emotions, his raw vocal delivery amplified that impact. Like them or not, Nirvana’s recognition is well-deserved imo. 

Yea and I totally get that too. I’m starting to think of them less as overrated and more so just being blown away on how they had such a big impact in such a short amount of time. There were only 938 days between the day Smells Like Teen Spirit was released and the day Kurt killed himself. That’s barely over 2.5 years! That would be like if Tom or Mark offed themself a couple months after the release of TOYPAJ (looking at a timeline starting of the release of WMAA when they really blew up). It’s just nuts to me what Kurt did. Speaking of Green Day, Kurt was a walking contradiction. 

 

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I think I dislike Kurt's voice and the production. I like the Beach production and In Utero, but I only like the songs on Nevermind. I'd definitely like Nevermind more if it sounded more like Bleach or In Utero.

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1 minute ago, thongrider said:

I think I dislike Kurt's voice and the production. I like the Beach production and In Utero, but I only like the songs on Nevermind. I'd definitely like Nevermind more if it sounded more like Bleach or In Utero.

I could have easily called that you would say exactly this lol. Your contrarian takes are becoming so predictable that they aren’t contrarian! I don’t understand why Kurt bitched about Nevermind’s production. It’s not like it had a bunch of 808s and fake bullshit on it. Still sounds like a real rock album to me!

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5 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Yea and I totally get that too. I’m starting to think of them less as overrated and more so just being blown away on how they had such a big impact in such a short amount of time. There were only 938 days between the day Smells Like Teen Spirit was released and the day Kurt killed himself. That’s barely over 2.5 years! That would be like if Tom or Mark offed themself a couple months after the release of TOYPAJ (looking at a timeline starting of the release of WMAA when they really blew up). It’s just nuts to me what Kurt did. Speaking of Green Day, Kurt was a walking contradiction

 

Why?

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2 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

I could have easily called that you would say exactly this lol. Your contrarian takes are becoming so predictable that they aren’t contrarian! I don’t understand why Kurt bitched about Nevermind’s production. It’s not like it had a bunch of 808s and fake bullshit on it. Still sounds like a real rock album to me!

I think I just hate rock music lol.

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26 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

My money is on Billie whooping your candy ass 

Billie Joe is a short old man who's been rich for decades. He's not kicking anyone's ass.

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4 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said:

Billie Joe is a short old man who's been rich for decades. He's not kicking anyone's ass.

Short dudes can fight. Billie grew up in an actual punk rock environment. I guarantee he could whoop someone like Scott who just listens to shit wannabe pop punkers while ripping on legends because he’s a clown.

Mike Ness is short and in his 60s, he jumped into the crowd and beat up a Trump supporter at a show just like 4 years ago lol 

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7 minutes ago, Patient #48273 said:

Billie Joe is a short old man who's been rich for decades. He's not kicking anyone's ass.

He seems very non violent to me. B

5 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Short dudes can fight. Billie grew up in an actual punk rock environment. I guarantee he could whoop someone like Scott who just listens to shit wannabe pop punkers while ripping on legends because he’s a clown 

He grew up in the Berkeley scene though. No violence was their first pillar.

 

That being said he did attack someone back in the day.

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5 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Short dudes can fight. Billie grew up in an actual punk rock environment. I guarantee he could whoop someone like Scott who just listens to shit wannabe pop punkers while ripping on legends because he’s a clown.

Mike Ness is short and in his 60s, he jumped into the crowd and beat up a Trump supporter at a show just like 4 years ago lol 

I'm not saying no short men can fight, but I am saying Billie Joe probably can't fight anymore (if he ever could).

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6 minutes ago, thongrider said:

He seems very non violent to me. B

He grew up in the Berkeley scene though. No violence was their first pillar.

 

That being said he did attack someone back in the day.

I remember on their behind the music on vh1 he said if you come talk shit to my face you’re going to be picking yourself up off the ground lol. Never forgot that 

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1 hour ago, thongrider said:

I will never understand Green Day's popularity in the US compared to Nirvana (I obviously like Green Day better). It seems like Nirvana was so much bigger. Nirvana had hit singles all over the world. But in the US Dookie almost sold twice as much as Nevermind. Is it about GD fans being middleclass and being able to afford the album? And more people pirating Nevermind? Whereas worldwide the two albums have sold almost equally as much. So Nirvana is much bigger worldwide than Dookie was. But Green Day didnt have a mainstream hit single before Minority in the US, but their singles were chartbusters in Europe. Whereas Nirvana had hit singles everywhere. Did GD not release singles in the US? American pop music is weird as hell.

(Maybe this post is more suitable for the GD thread I dunno) Always baffles me.

Nirvana was a rock/grunge sound.  That is more popularized outside of the States as much as it is in.  Green Day is socal-pop punk.  That is supremely a US & Lake-less places like Australia. 

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1 minute ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said:

Nirvana was a rock/grunge sound.  That is more popularized outside of the States as much as it is in.  Green Day is socal-pop punk.  That is supremely a US & Lake-less places like Australia. 

Green Day is not socal, they are from Northern California. What is it, amateur hour?

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3 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

I remember on their behind the music on vh1 he said if you come talk shit to my face you’re going to be picking yourself up off the ground lol. Never forgot that 

Tbf it was probably the pacifists that gave him deaththreats he was referring to.

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Just now, thongrider said:

Tbf it was probably the pacifists that gave him deaththreats he was referring to.

He , not sure what a pacifist is but I’m pretty sure he was talking about the people calling them sellouts…so I think we’re on the same page here 

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4 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Green Day is not socal, they are from Northern California. What is it, amateur hour?

W.e. similar demographics of fans.

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3 minutes ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said:

Nirvana was a rock/grunge sound.  That is more popularized outside of the States as much as it is in.  Green Day is socal-pop punk.  That is supremely a US & Lake-less places like Australia. 

I actually checked it. They only released singles in Europe and Japan, it seems. And focused on airplay in the US. I remember reading a book about punk in the UK in 1990 and I was shocked how popular they were there even before Kerplunk came out and that just skyrocketed with Dookie.

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