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1 minute ago, JarJarBlinks said:

That isn’t how AI works. That person isn’t “writing” anything. 
 

you give a prompt and push a button.

Can't you feed it something?

 

At least with the song Ghost posted, it has to have been fed the original song at least.

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3 minutes ago, thongrider said:

Can't you feed it something?

 

At least with the song Ghost posted, it has to have been fed the original song at least.

And you don’t see a problem with giving it someone’s already existing piece of music to have it regurgitate out something new?

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another example of a giant entertainment entity dipping their toes into it.  they're just salivating to cut out real people from the artistic process.

 

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4 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

And you don’t see a problem with giving it someone’s already existing piece of music to have it regurgitate out something new?

I guess it depends if you feed it with your own work.

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Why would you want to feed your ideas to AI? If there's one place where it benefits you to admit that you don't know how to do something, it's creativity. If you can't play an instrument and you want to make music, you start learning to how play the instrument. If you want to make art, you learn how to do it.
It's not art or music to have a computer generate things for you. It's embarrassing, it's lazy, it's forfeiting creativity.

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I was really enjoying doing digital art on my Ipad but the AI thing has left a sour taste in my mouth.  so this was my first attempt at watercolor/pen and ink.

I'm done with digital for awhile.

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3 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said:

@Kay I don’t know if you can kick Adobe to the curb regarding your job, but I know ProCreate has taken a pretty big stance against AI which I think is great.

Unfortunately I can’t escape Adobe because of my jobs contracts - Im actually in the process of getting my team adobe certified. 
I do hear great things from companies like Procreate and Affinity. I wish I could change the mind but they have like multiple campuses and a bajillion staff no ones listening to me haha 

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5 hours ago, Kay said:

Unfortunately I can’t escape Adobe because of my jobs contracts - Im actually in the process of getting my team adobe certified. 
I do hear great things from companies like Procreate and Affinity. I wish I could change the mind but they have like multiple campuses and a bajillion staff no ones listening to me haha 

yeah, as soon as I moved out of graphic design as a career i was able to finally drop adobe for affinity. super worth it so far, but i'm not sure if i could have chosen it if i was still in the field full time.

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10 minutes ago, whales said:

yeah, as soon as I moved out of graphic design as a career i was able to finally drop adobe for affinity. super worth it so far, but i'm not sure if i could have chosen it if i was still in the field full time.

Yeah I think if I wasn’t in my current job I would jumpship in a heart beat. Adobes practices just get worse over time. 

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On 1/3/2025 at 3:01 PM, thongrider said:

Can't you feed it something?

 

At least with the song Ghost posted, it has to have been fed the original song at least.

You know? My original post wasn't judging AI. Just the result because I find it impressive just hearing how it sounds, I was not opening the ethical or not ethical debate about being or not human and taking copyrighted content to be able to create things. That doesn't mean I agree with this use of AI. By any means. But I'm sure JarJar didn't even listened to it or even did any effort to get the point. But well, I don't care.

Once the debate is open, I agree with you all: I don't like the idea and to me this kind of creations sound/look/feel anything but human. But I still find it impressive. I don't think is not possible to have both feelings/opinions. My head can't comprehend how in the hell this works to be able to generate this content, either how this 'intelligence' is able to 'learn'. This could be a really interesting technology which, to be fair, is implemented in more things than what we can see. So the problem is not the technology itself, but its use and the lack of regulation. Take as an example the atomic bomb -taking in count all differences-. Were the previous discoveries interesting? Of course. Was the creation of such weapons a good thing? Hell no. The same as the whole nuclear thing. You can use it for medecine, or as a weapon. Is then the nuclear technology a bad thing per se? Well... that's not an easy answer.

I'm sure too that, in terms of music, AI has been used in recent recordings, even if the artist hasn't used the AI output itself on the record. And probably has been used by artists we like. I'm against that? Yes, at the same level I'm against Kemper, and other profilers and plugins to emulate amps instead of using real rig and learn to usea real stuff. Am I impressed by the results? Yeah, lots of times. I know that it's not the same thing, but still, you get the point. The same happens with plugins that are able to create armonies automatically for your voice, or ¡autotuning' and pitch correction tools. I mean, there are lots of bands playing with tons of backing tracks and using live pitch correction. How much real is that? More than AI, of course, but can we quantify it? Are we 100% ok with that? I mean, are we ok with the fact that there are lots of bands not being able to replicate their own compositions in live conditions?

So, despite the fact that AI is going way too far (and it's really scary), is not that far from things we all already know and have accepted.

 

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On 1/5/2025 at 3:01 AM, Ghost said:

You know? My original post wasn't judging AI. Just the result because I find it impressive just hearing how it sounds, I was not opening the ethical or not ethical debate about being or not human and taking copyrighted content to be able to create things. That doesn't mean I agree with this use of AI. By any means. But I'm sure JarJar didn't even listened to it or even did any effort to get the point. But well, I don't care.

Once the debate is open, I agree with you all: I don't like the idea and to me this kind of creations sound/look/feel anything but human. But I still find it impressive. I don't think is not possible to have both feelings/opinions. My head can't comprehend how in the hell this works to be able to generate this content, either how this 'intelligence' is able to 'learn'. This could be a really interesting technology which, to be fair, is implemented in more things than what we can see. So the problem is not the technology itself, but its use and the lack of regulation. Take as an example the atomic bomb -taking in count all differences-. Were the previous discoveries interesting? Of course. Was the creation of such weapons a good thing? Hell no. The same as the whole nuclear thing. You can use it for medecine, or as a weapon. Is then the nuclear technology a bad thing per se? Well... that's not an easy answer.

I'm sure too that, in terms of music, AI has been used in recent recordings, even if the artist hasn't used the AI output itself on the record. And probably has been used by artists we like. I'm against that? Yes, at the same level I'm against Kemper, and other profilers and plugins to emulate amps instead of using real rig and learn to usea real stuff. Am I impressed by the results? Yeah, lots of times. I know that it's not the same thing, but still, you get the point. The same happens with plugins that are able to create armonies automatically for your voice, or ¡autotuning' and pitch correction tools. I mean, there are lots of bands playing with tons of backing tracks and using live pitch correction. How much real is that? More than AI, of course, but can we quantify it? Are we 100% ok with that? I mean, are we ok with the fact that there are lots of bands not being able to replicate their own compositions in live conditions?

So, despite the fact that AI is going way too far (and it's really scary), is not that far from things we all already know and have accepted.

 

trying to compare something to the atomic bomb in an attempt at observing some kind of "wonder" within it let's me know how dumb your argument is. 

And fuck no I didn't listen, I'm not giving anything AI any of my clicks consciously.

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2 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said:

trying to compare something to the atomic bomb in an attempt at observing some kind of "wonder" within it let's me know how dumb your argument is. 

And fuck no I didn't listen, I'm not giving anything AI any of my clicks consciously.

It’s weird how many people are simping for the robots already.  

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1 hour ago, Elite Takes - this is jan said:

It’s weird how many people are simping for the robots already.  

BUT HAVE YOU SEEN NUCLEAR BOMBS VAPORIZE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT ONCE IN NAGASAKI?? ABSOLUTELY BREATHTAKING.

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On 1/7/2025 at 2:44 PM, JarJarBlinks said:

trying to compare something to the atomic bomb in an attempt at observing some kind of "wonder" within it let's me know how dumb your argument is. 

And fuck no I didn't listen, I'm not giving anything AI any of my clicks consciously.

So you wouldnt listen and woudln't even tried to understand. As expected. JarJar just JarJaring. My argument may be dumb but at least I'm not the dumb person here.

And nope. I'm not for the robots, @Dans Cliff. You either got the point. 

 

Anyways. I get people debating and having different points. I get people don't even wanting to debate. I don't get people doing the straw man thing just to shit over an opinion and  user, being disrespectful. But well, old classic blink online.

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6 hours ago, Ghost said:

So you wouldnt listen and woudln't even tried to understand. As expected. JarJar just JarJaring. My argument may be dumb but at least I'm not the dumb person here.

And nope. I'm not for the robots, @Dans Cliff. You either got the point. 

 

Anyways. I get people debating and having different points. I get people don't even wanting to debate. I don't get people doing the straw man thing just to shit over an opinion and  user, being disrespectful. But well, old classic blink online.

I don't have to listen to it, I'm sure it sounds good.  I'm sure it sounds realistic.  Which is EXACTLY why it fucking sucks and why I won't give it a click.

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On 1/2/2025 at 11:49 AM, Ghost said:

 

This one is sooo nice on its own with this etheral doo-wop sound, it doesn't deserve the AI treatment at all imo. Not all Beach Boys songs need to be surf-rock to work, but AI immediately turned this one into a cheap surf rock song (I only listened to the first 15 seconds of the AI song, then I had to turn it off because it's just awful 😅

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On 1/6/2025 at 1:37 PM, Dans Cliff said:

There is no debate.  AI involved with art/creation is trash/soulless because it literally is remid of soul lol. 

Almost as bad as relying on backing tracks for concerts 

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