Goldfinger new song feat. Mark and Travis

[carlos182]

It’s a post indirectly related to Blink (at least to Mark and Travis). I’m sure this song reflects how Blink would have sounded if Tom hadn’t come back. I mean, just swap John’s voice with Matt’s, and there you go – you have a new Blink song.

It sounds so much like California...
All I can say is: THANK GOD Tom came back.

[Jan Mortensen]

I do not miss this cheesy production or cheap songs.

[Nosferatu]

Not gonna lie, i'm shocked there's no woahs or gang vocals

[Ghent]

Good generic little tune, a lot like some OMT and Cali material

[Jan Mortensen]

2 minutes ago, Ghent said:

Good generic little tune, a lot like some OMT and Cali material

We’ll all be fighting to the graves on this. 

[Ghent]

I'm 10 years solid in my stance.

The tombots still cloud everything with their BS. OMT has shit tons of song writers and some generic tunes and no one cared simply because of Tom.

It's like arguing with MAGA. Cult shit

[Jan Mortensen]

1 hour ago, Ghent said:

I'm 10 years solid in my stance.

The tombots still cloud everything with their BS. OMT has shit tons of song writers and some generic tunes and no one cared simply because of Tom.

It's like arguing with MAGA. Cult shit

False.  We definitely cared, and no it wasn’t as generic as Cali - pt 2 - Nine.

But then again, I’m a bot that was designed for.. preferring the primary trio?

[Jan Mortensen]

Liking this formula that takes all emotion out of the music is more culty than not liking it lol.

Carlos is also spot on about swapping Matt in there and here’s yet again a Cali era song. It’s not a big deal anymore but you are still slinging ppl who didn’t like it is crazy

[Ghent]

Songwriters magically went from satanic and wrong to completely "meh" simply because Tom was in the band. Credibility is gone with the tombots

Generic pop punk is cool if Tom's name is listed. If not, its fake and phony and not art

I will never be broken

[Jan Mortensen]

34 minutes ago, Ghent said:

Songwriters magically went from satanic and wrong to completely "meh" simply because Tom was in the band. Credibility is gone with the tombots

Generic pop punk is cool if Tom's name is listed. If not, its fake and phony and not art

I will never be broken

You can’t hear the differences is the main problem.  I actually understand where you are coming from but not hearing the differences between this, Cali-Nine and OMT (sans a few songs) is borderline intentional?

[Nosferatu]

7 minutes ago, Drama-Free Jan said:

You can’t hear the differences is the main problem.  I actually understand where you are coming from but not hearing the differences between this, Cali-Nine and OMT (sans a few songs) is borderline intentional?

Yeah, outside of a select few songs or moments I don't hear California in the One More Time album. I too see what Ghent is saying though.

Terrified was originally for BCR. Turpentine and More Than You Know clearly had a lot of involvement from Tom. They don't belong on California at all

California and Nine barely has any riffs. Bad News could've easily been a Dude Ranch song if it was less polished. Couldn't be anymore different to California. Dance With Me may have the typical four chord song structure like a lot of California but the riff alone makes the song way less generic

I could see If You Never Left being a California song but even that has a lot of simple but interesting guitar parts unlike California.

Everyone Everywhere is basically BCR meets AVA's Dream Walker/Lifeforms era.

One Night Stand has a riff that Tom has been teasing for almost 10 years on his acoustic clips. Blink Wave and Every Other Weekend are 80's sounding songs. I don't hear anything new wavy or 80's on California.

Maybe When We Were Young? But the chorus isn't something you'd hear on California either. You Don't Know What You've Got has a bridge that's way too interesting to be on California. Maybe Fell in Love but the guitar playing in the verses are typical Tom. It has that Voyager vibe from AVA. Other Side has an intro similar to Even If She Falls.

The point is that Tom is far from a generic songwriter. Yeah, there's moments that could be on California but there's a lot more happening on OMT than woahs, gang vocals and Adam's Song riffs being on nearly every intro or verse

 

[Ghent]

20 minutes ago, Drama-Free Jan said:

You can’t hear the differences is the main problem.  I actually understand where you are coming from but not hearing the differences between this, Cali-Nine and OMT (sans a few songs) is borderline intentional?

And now we fall back on the "you just don't understand production" subjective line that is the ultimate cop out. MAGA but for blink fans

[Ghent]

Blink is better with Tom, he's a better writer, singer, and guitarist. But the overall sound was not nearly the kind of departure that people pretend it was

Same style songs, multiple songwriters, glossy

[Jan Mortensen]

They’re similar tacos or cheeseburgers but you’re taking away the quality of meat, seasonings, and the bun altogether in some cases.

It’s not the same.

[Jan Mortensen]

11 minutes ago, Nosferatu said:

Yeah, outside of a select few songs or moments I don't hear California in the One More Time album. I too see what Ghent is saying though.

Terrified was originally for BCR. Turpentine and More Than You Know clearly had a lot of involvement from Tom. They don't belong on California at all

California and Nine barely has any riffs. Bad News could've easily been a Dude Ranch song if it was less polished. Couldn't be anymore different to California. Dance With Me may have the typical four chord song structure like a lot of California but the riff alone makes the song way less generic

I could see If You Never Left being a California song but even that has a lot of simple but interesting guitar parts unlike California.

Everyone Everywhere is basically BCR meets AVA's Dream Walker/Lifeforms era.

One Night Stand has a riff that Tom has been teasing for almost 10 years on his acoustic clips. Blink Wave and Every Other Weekend are 80's sounding songs. I don't hear anything new wavy or 80's on California.

Maybe When We Were Young? But the chorus isn't something you'd hear on California either. You Don't Know What You've Got has a bridge that's way too interesting to be on California. Maybe Fell in Love but the guitar playing in the verses are typical Tom. It has that Voyager vibe from AVA. Other Side has an intro similar to Even If She Falls.

The point is that Tom is far from a generic songwriter. Yeah, there's moments that could be on California but there's a lot more happening on OMT than woahs, gang vocals and Adam's Song riffs being on nearly every intro or verse

 

Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better. Even a simple actual riff, written by Tom, lifts a generic song so much.  Having Tom’s vocals contrasting Mark’s lifts a generic song so much. Otherwise it is just blink-lite.  I don’t love the generic formula stuff either on OMT, or pre written songs like Take Me In make me want to pluck my ears off but when you mix in all the more authentic/creative songs like you mentioned, it’s not even the same stratosphere.  Cali-what?

[Ghent]

10 minutes ago, Drama-Free Jan said:

They’re similar tacos or cheeseburgers but you’re taking away the quality of meat, seasonings, and the bun altogether in some cases.

It’s not the same.

Ok so you agree with me that the general product is the same but the lineup (extra nice ingredient change) make the end product better? 

So it has nothing to do with production, songwriters, or any of that BS. It was all just about Tom

Been arguing this since 2016. Validated

[JarJarBlinks]

Technical personnel

Aaron Rubin – co-producer (1–2, 4, 8, 11, 14, 24, 26), recording engineer

Adam Hawkins – mixing (1–2, 4, 6–7, 14, 16)

Gregory Hein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Andrew Goldstein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Brian Diaz – guitar technician

Brian Lee – co-producer (7, 18, 17, 27)

Bryce Bordone – mixing assistance (9)

Dan Book – bass engineering (9)

Daniel Jensen – drum technician

Eric Emery – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Henry Lunetta – assistant engineer (1–2, 4, 6–7, 12, 14, 16)

John Warren – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Matt Wolach – assistant engineer (3, 5, 8, 10–11, 13, 15, 17)

Nicholas Morzov – recording engineer

Mark "Spike" Stent – mixing (3, 8, 10–11, 15, 17)

Randy Merrill – mastering

Serban Ghenea – mixing (9)

Tim Armstrong – co-producer (15)

Thomas Schleiter – co-producer (25)

[JarJarBlinks]

this guy is a pretty PUNX songwriter on OMT:

Michael Ross Pollack (born April 26, 1994) is an American songwriter and record producer. He has written songs for artists such as Miley Cyrus, Maroon 5, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Katy Perry, Jonas Brothers, Beyoncé, Lizzo, and Kelly Clarkson, among others.[1][2] He co-wrote Maroon 5's 2020 single "Memories", which peaked atop Billboard's Radio Songs chart, along with Justin Bieber's "Ghost"[3] and Miley Cyrus' "Flowers".[4][5] The latter also peaked the Billboard Hot 100, becoming his first co-writing credit to do so.[6]

[Ghent]

31 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

Technical personnel

Aaron Rubin – co-producer (1–2, 4, 8, 11, 14, 24, 26), recording engineer

Adam Hawkins – mixing (1–2, 4, 6–7, 14, 16)

Gregory Hein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Andrew Goldstein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Brian Diaz – guitar technician

Brian Lee – co-producer (7, 18, 17, 27)

Bryce Bordone – mixing assistance (9)

Dan Book – bass engineering (9)

Daniel Jensen – drum technician

Eric Emery – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Henry Lunetta – assistant engineer (1–2, 4, 6–7, 12, 14, 16)

John Warren – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Matt Wolach – assistant engineer (3, 5, 8, 10–11, 13, 15, 17)

Nicholas Morzov – recording engineer

Mark "Spike" Stent – mixing (3, 8, 10–11, 15, 17)

Randy Merrill – mastering

Serban Ghenea – mixing (9)

Tim Armstrong – co-producer (15)

Thomas Schleiter – co-producer (25)

But But But Feldmann and the cowriters 😭

[Jan Mortensen]

44 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

Technical personnel

Aaron Rubin – co-producer (1–2, 4, 8, 11, 14, 24, 26), recording engineer

Adam Hawkins – mixing (1–2, 4, 6–7, 14, 16)

Gregory Hein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Andrew Goldstein – co-producer (5, 18–19, 22, 23)

Brian Diaz – guitar technician

Brian Lee – co-producer (7, 18, 17, 27)

Bryce Bordone – mixing assistance (9)

Dan Book – bass engineering (9)

Daniel Jensen – drum technician

Eric Emery – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Henry Lunetta – assistant engineer (1–2, 4, 6–7, 12, 14, 16)

John Warren – recording engineer (1–8, 10–17)

Matt Wolach – assistant engineer (3, 5, 8, 10–11, 13, 15, 17)

Nicholas Morzov – recording engineer

Mark "Spike" Stent – mixing (3, 8, 10–11, 15, 17)

Randy Merrill – mastering

Serban Ghenea – mixing (9)

Tim Armstrong – co-producer (15)

Thomas Schleiter – co-producer (25)

This is just how modern credits are done.  Business stuff.  Taxes.  Stuff like that.