Yea I am not an expert on the subject but have heard they blatantly ripped some people off. I dunno, don’t really care. Jimmy Page is an awesome guitarist and as a drummer I love me some John Bonham. He even crashed a car into a hotel pool in Flint, MI which is really close to me so I think that’s awesome lol. Crazy to think they would have been in Flint, but that was before my time when Flint was thriving.