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Songwriters magically went from satanic and wrong to completely "meh" simply because Tom was in the band. Credibility is gone with the tombots Generic pop punk is cool if Tom's name is listed. If not, its fake and phony and not art I will never be broken

So it was never about songwriters and production, that was all made up, it was just about Tom? So exactly what I've argued for 10 years. Vindicated

Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better. Even a simple actual riff, written by Tom, lifts a generic song so much. Having Tom’s vocals contrasting Mark’s lifts a generic song so much. Otherwise it is just blink-lite. I don’t love the generic formula stuff either on OMT, or pre written songs like Take Me In make me want to pluck my ears off but when you mix in all the more authentic/creative songs like you mentioned, it’s not even the same stratosphere. Cali-what?

Yeah, outside of a select few songs or moments I don't hear California in the One More Time album. I too see what Ghent is saying though. Terrified was originally for BCR. Turpentine and More Than You Know clearly had a lot of involvement from Tom. They don't belong on California at all California and Nine barely has any riffs. Bad News could've easily been a Dude Ranch song if it was less polished. Couldn't be anymore different to California. Dance With Me may have the typical four chord song structure like a lot of California but the riff alone makes the song way less generic I could see If You Never Left being a California song but even that has a lot of simple but interesting guitar parts unlike California. Everyone Everywhere is basically BCR meets AVA's Dream Walker/Lifeforms era. One Night Stand has a riff that Tom has been teasing for almost 10 years on his acoustic clips. Blink Wave and Every Other Weekend are 80's sounding songs. I don't hear anything new wavy or 80's on California. Maybe When We Were Young? But the chorus isn't something you'd hear on California either. You Don't Know What You've Got has a bridge that's way too interesting to be on California. Maybe Fell in Love but the guitar playing in the verses are typical Tom. It has that Voyager vibe from AVA. Other Side has an intro similar to Even If She Falls. The point is that Tom is far from a generic songwriter. Yeah, there's moments that could be on California but there's a lot more happening on OMT than woahs, gang vocals and Adam's Song riffs being on nearly every intro or verse

I fucking love bedroom talk

You can’t hear the differences is the main problem. I actually understand where you are coming from but not hearing the differences between this, Cali-Nine and OMT (sans a few songs) is borderline intentional?

The chorus to Bedroom Talk shouldn't work, but it just does.

I was never super into them….but I still love The Best of Me & Bedroom Talk. A whole lot.

Good generic little tune, a lot like some OMT and Cali material

Not gonna lie, i'm shocked there's no woahs or gang vocals

I do not miss this cheesy production or cheap songs.

That’s 2 hours well spent if you ask me 😂 Hope you enjoyed it!

TSL only made one pop punk album imo and it’s a banger. I don’t really consider the other records as pop punk.

It’s a post indirectly related to Blink (at least to Mark and Travis). I’m sure this song reflects how Blink would have sounded if Tom hadn’t come back. I mean, just swap John’s voice with Matt’s, and there you go – you have a new Blink song. It sounds so much like California... All I can say is: THANK GOD Tom came back.