well considering people have used the term deuschebag i might as well use it as a reference, (its also fun to say) i dont think anyone really knows what one looks like, just meant to be derogatory. and im not saying that people have to be good looking to have talent, i just know that they arent that good and tom could have found better musicians I think Angels and Airwaves will sound great, dont get me wrong, but its all TOM, the others are just playing what he wrote. just like box car racer, (cept boxcar had travis' writing involved as well as toms) the guitarist from box car sucks, drummer from offspring sucks, i dont know anything bout the bassist (thank God its not the bassist from BCR), im sure the new guy has some skill. its not really an equal band according to contribution, its more like a Tom solo project so i dont really care what i say about the others, anyone could do their job. its funny how all of you get all defensive of them