thongrider Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, Jandrew Tate said: Read what I said, pal. First of all, It’s a clear step toward AI. You’re giving the thumbs up to artists not playing real live music which is a clear progression to allowing AI have its space in music. If you can see that progression then please don’t ever pretend to be a historian. And what’s the difference anyways? Explain. What’s the difference when it’s a non-human “playing” the music you’re hearing and the artist is faking to play? I’m not talking about some obscure piano backing track I’m talking about guitar backing tracks that play while the guitarist is not. Tbf I think using a piano backing track is worse. Using a guitar one is just lazy. Quote
Coddled Jan Posted April 15 Posted April 15 This isn't Backstreet Boys rolling out a full backing track in the background that they lip sync and dance to. It's backing tracks to fill out the soundscape of the arena. They are a famous rock band playing on a giant tour at arenas with 3 people. This isn't that hard to fathom and is a dumb argument. Did they play backing tracks at the Denny's show? No. Read the room, literally. 1 Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 20 minutes ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said: This isn't Backstreet Boys rolling out a full backing track in the background that they lip sync and dance to. It's backing tracks to fill out the soundscape of the arena. They are a famous rock band playing on a giant tour at arenas with 3 people. This isn't that hard to fathom and is a dumb argument. Did they play backing tracks at the Denny's show? No. Read the room, literally. Hahaha I wish I would have said this before because I was going to. I knew this lame excuse was going. You’re as predictable as a MAGAT screaming woke in an argument. The whole “tHeY’rE fiLLiNg OuT aN aReNA” excuse is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. You’re just going to act like rock bands weren’t rocking arenas for decades before backing tracks existed? That excuse is not valid in any facet. By Denny’s show, you mean the gimmick where they played two seconds of a song for a video they ended up scrapping? It’s understandable when Backstreet Boys are doing it. They’re not pretending to play the fucking guitar you jackass Quote
thongrider Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Tom not playing shit and just pretending is better than BSB playing with a backing track for their instruments. Tom not playing and BSB miming is about the same thing. It's sort of ripping off the audience, but not other musicians. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 @Locean Breeze - Jan You’ve lost the plot entirely when you try to justify a rock band doing something because “ThE BaCkStReEt BoYs Do iT.” Smfh. You are to blame for AI overtaking music. Period. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, thongrider said: Tom not playing shit and just pretending is better than BSB playing with a backing track for their instruments. Tom not playing and BSB miming is about the same thing. It's sort of ripping off the audience, but not other musicians. What Tom does is way worse. Backstreet Boys aren’t pretending to play something they’re not. Tom used to rip on Backstreet Boys for not playing instruments so that makes him worse and a hypocrite Quote
thongrider Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, Jandrew Tate said: What Tom does is way worse. Backstreet Boys aren’t pretending to play something they’re not. Tom used to rip on Backstreet Boys for not playing instruments so that makes him worse and a hypocrite But if they're doing a live show they should hire live musicians. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Anyways I’m not interested in having this conversation again. Backing tracks have always been and will always be lame as fuck for a rock back to use. The point I was making is that people accepting backing tracks as the norm for rock bands has opened the door for AI to intrude all over rock music. Don’t believe me? Check back in with me in 10, even just 5 years. Call me Diddy the Prophet. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, thongrider said: But if they're doing a live show they should hire live musicians. Not really, most of their music sounds computerized. They aren’t pretending to be musicians their focus is singing and dancing. That is not the case with blink. And I’m pretty sure BSB had tons of live musicians on stage with them anyways Quote
thongrider Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Jandrew Tate said: Not really, most of their music sounds computerized anyways. It wasn’t recorded the same way as rock bands. And I’m pretty sure BSB had tons of live musicians on stage with them anyways I would imagine so, but I think it's shitty if they don't. If Tom doesn't play it's just lame, but he isn't keeping someone from having a gig. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, thongrider said: I would imagine so, but I think it's shitty if they don't. If Tom doesn't play it's just lame, but he isn't keeping someone from having a gig. lol I dont agree with your reasoning here at all but at this point we’re just arguing over semantics. I stand United with you thong Quote
Coddled Jan Posted April 15 Posted April 15 16 minutes ago, Jandrew Tate said: Hahaha I wish I would have said this before because I was going to. I knew this lame excuse was going. You’re as predictable as a MAGAT screaming woke in an argument. The whole “tHeY’rE fiLLiNg OuT aN aReNA” excuse is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. You’re just going to act like rock bands weren’t rocking arenas for decades before backing tracks existed? That excuse is not valid in any facet. By Denny’s show, you mean the gimmick where they played two seconds of a song for a video they ended up scrapping? It’s understandable when Backstreet Boys are doing it. They’re not pretending to play the fucking guitar you jackass It's not "predictable" to be displaying basic logic. How many of these 'Sick' rock bands were trios that were as popular as blink? I'll wait. I'd rather have intimate shows with a smaller room and just them jamming like the Denny's clip, but they're not doing it so you're blowing it way out of proportion. 1 Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 @Locean Breeze - Jan in the next few years when you start bitching about how AI has taken over music, take a long look in the mirror and blame yourself for normalizing backing tracks. You have blood on your hands, son. @thongriderand I’s hands are clean. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said: It's not "predictable" to be displaying basic logic. How many of these 'Sick' rock bands were trios that were as popular as blink? I'll wait. I'd rather have intimate shows with a smaller room and just them jamming like the Denny's clip, but they're not doing it so you're blowing it way out of proportion. Except for you displayed no logic whatsoever. You claimed it’s needed to fill out arenas but that argument ignores the facts that bands with one guitarist were rocking arenas for decades without backing tracks. It’s not the got ya that you think it is. In fact, it’s pure copium. Pathetic Quote
Coddled Jan Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, Jandrew Tate said: @Locean Breeze - Jan in the next few years when you start bitching about how AI has taken over music, take a long look in the mirror and blame yourself for normalizing backing tracks. You have blood on your hands, son. @thongriderand I’s hands are clean. Backing tracks aren't AI...they aren't in the same vicinity. Don't you need to go play Xbox or something which is more to blame for AI taking over than understanding why blink is filling out their sound on long tours at arenas.. 1 Quote
thongrider Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said: It's not "predictable" to be displaying basic logic. How many of these 'Sick' rock bands were trios that were as popular as blink? I'll wait. I'd rather have intimate shows with a smaller room and just them jamming like the Denny's clip, but they're not doing it so you're blowing it way out of proportion. Yeah, any rock band playing an arena is lame as fuck. Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Locean Breeze - Jan said: Backing tracks aren't AI...they aren't in the same vicinity. Don't you need to go play Xbox or something which is more to blame for AI taking over than understanding why blink is filling out their sound on long tours at arenas.. You’re being an obtuse dumbass. Backing tracks are opening the doors wide open for AI to exist because backing tracks are killing the integrity of live performances. Van Halen, Motley Crue, Posion, all bands with one guitarist who rocked arenas for decades. Those are just off the top of my dome, it’s an endless list. Your opinions on the bands don’t matter, they had one guitarist and they filled out arenas with one guitar and no backing tracks…which if I were to believe you, that would be impossible! 🤡🤡🤡 Quote
Sun God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 And I don’t play Xbox, that’s for incels. I have a PlayStation 5 like all alpha males Quote
whales Posted April 15 Posted April 15 that was a boring read, you both need better hobbies. any idea when we're getting new music? I don't use social media much at all these days. 3 2 Quote
allsystemsgo Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, whales said: that was a boring read, you both need better hobbies. any idea when we're getting new music? I don't use social media much at all these days. They're supposedly demoing this summer. Quote
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