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4 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

scott's drums sound the same.

Forgot to mention this as well. But if the album (dude ranch) & song (Christmas) are sonically identical, it doesn’t add up that they were done in separate sessions.

My question is since Christmas and Mutt were done in the same session, why don’t they sound the same?

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3 hours ago, Q182 said:

Forgot to mention this as well. But if the album (dude ranch) & song (Christmas) are sonically identical, it doesn’t add up that they were done in separate sessions.

My question is since Christmas and Mutt were done in the same session, why don’t they sound the same?

because the mix/master is different, and tom probably used both heads. and even different guitars; the sticker strat and he had at least one gibson les paul by this time.

we have confirmation from rob that the two songs were done in the same session. end of story.

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51 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

because the mix/master is different, and tom probably used both heads. and even different guitars; the sticker strat and he had at least one gibson les paul by this time.

Very true! Not doubting the dates, was going by what I heard.

So since it’s fall 1997, I’m guessing along the lines of @blinkstillrules. He had the kitchen sink with him for that session, since we’ve got two different tones on our hands. I’ll always be partial to that dude ranch crunch.

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31 minutes ago, blinkstillrules said:

Agreed and it sounds like he did. Just odd to me they're mixed and mastered differently when recorded together. IWBHFC definitely sounds like sticker strat and the Ampeg or a Marshall. Mutt I hear Mesa and a Les Paul.

well, christmas was promo only, and mutt was for a soundtrack. so the mastering was different by default. also, could have been one was mixed by trombino and the other by some like lord alge. i'd have to check the credits in my CDs and see if anyone is listed.

once last thought: since christmas was a promo-only for radio airplay, it makes total sense it was mixed to sound like DR. whereas "mutt" was given the b-side treatment, almost like a demo.

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On 11/27/2020 at 7:58 PM, daveyjones said:

well, christmas was promo only, and mutt was for a soundtrack. so the mastering was different by default. also, could have been one was mixed by trombino and the other by some like lord alge. i'd have to check the credits in my CDs and see if anyone is listed.

once last thought: since christmas was a promo-only for radio airplay, it makes total sense it was mixed to sound like DR. whereas "mutt" was given the b-side treatment, almost like a demo.

I have the original xmas promo, it only shows Trombino producing it on the limited notes it has.

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